Unknown Model 98 8mm

[mcgunguy]

Good evening CGN,

Ive got a model 98 in 8mm here. I am trying to find out more about it.

Are there any model 98 aficionados here? Would anyone be able to show me some resources so I can look up SNs, markings etc?

The SN on the receiver (92X1) is different from the Bayonet (26X1) which is different than the bolt (55X9). Does this mean that this is a franken gun?

Is there any other information that I would need to look up when/where this thing was manufactured?

Thanks in advance.

-mcgunguy

 

[Deltasilver]

K98k. Late war stock and bands, can’t tell much else from your pic.

A good clear photo of the top of the receiver will tell us where and when and the same of the left side may tell us something of its post war history if it has one.

 

[mcgunguy]

Thank you for the feedback! I will get those pictures up ASAP.

 

[Airborn_69]

There should a big marker with somewhat like S/249 or a BCF 43 etc, etc,, on top of the receiver. It'll tell you where it was made.

Noticed you have a late war buttstock without the plate, could be a Russian Capture mismatched? Better pics please.

 

[mcgunguy]

There should a big marker with somewhat like S/249 or a BCF 43 etc, etc,, on top of the receiver. It'll tell you where it was made.

Noticed you have a late war buttstock without the plate, could be a Russian Capture mismatched? Better pics please.

The top image is a bit blurry, but it says BCD 4
The bottom image is a little strange...b47 possibly

Looked up what 'BCD 4' means, GW 1944...but perhaps the b47 is some kind of russian marking?

Looks like the serials should match too, but they dont... lots of sentimental value.

 

[Airborn_69]

Yeah, rarer one for sure and later war production as you stated.

I don't see any Waffenampt anywhere on your receiver? That's why I think might have been refurbished?

Russian capture, possibly or something else.

 

[Airborn_69]

Yeah, rarer one for sure and later war production as you stated.

I don't see any Waffenampt anywhere on your receiver? That's why I think might have been refurbished?

Russian capture, possibly or something else.

Correction on my part, just looked at mine and the "eagles holding the swastika" stamps are on the bolt handle side of the receiver.

If the Swastikas have attempts of being removed, likely a capture if not

Mine is a bolt mismatched but the rest is good. 1938 Norwegian capture and modded for 30-06. Started has a 8mm.

Kinda wish your pics would be clearer and have more.. All good.

 

[mcgunguy]

Correction on my part, just looked at mine and the "eagles holding the swastika" stamps are on the bolt handle side of the receiver.

If the Swastikas have attempts of being removed, likely a capture if not

Mine is a bolt mismatched but the rest is good. 1938 Norwegian capture and modded for 30-06. Started has a 8mm.

Kinda wish your pics would be clearer and have more.. All good.

No eagle carrying the swastika. I don't actually have the rifle on me at the moment, it is at a relatives. But when I do, I will post some more detailed pics.

it's great that you know the history of yours. Soon I will have enough info!

Thanks!

 

[mcgunguy]

Yeah, rarer one for sure and later war production as you stated.

I don't see any Waffenampt anywhere on your receiver? That's why I think might have been refurbished?

Russian capture, possibly or something else.

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Wow. That is ###y. Nothing like that on the rifle. Too bad. Probably filed or sanded off since it was most likely a capture.

 

[gaff]

with out clear pictures of all the markings , its hard to tell what you have . the first pictures appears to be a post war Czech stock, but with out better pics??

 

[Cornflake Leader]

with out clear pictures of all the markings , its hard to tell what you have . the first pictures appears to be a post war Czech stock, but with out better pics??

Hey Gaff,

The latewar.com site describes this stock as a semi-kriegsmodell specific to bcd, who never got any further than relocating the take down hole. Out of curiosity, what makes you think Czech? I know they used the same bcd pattern stock but is there something that jumps out at you and says "hey that's a Czech stock"?

I ask because the kid and I have started collecting the post war rifles and there's not a lot of good info out there.

Cheers.

 

[mcgunguy]

Ok, here is a photo update, as promised. Closer inspection revealed Waffenampt all over the gun, on every part...bolt, receiver (bolt handle side), floor plate, and one big one right above the BCD marking. The number under the front/center Waffenampt is '740'...not sure if that is significant.

Also, the serial number on the bolt and receiver are matching, and simply say 'b47'...looks like that may have been later, as there are 4 digit numbers on the bolt/receiver that are mismatched. Also I am not sure about the sling...as far as we know, it was the original.

I would appreciate any history, value, observations etc.

 

[mcgunguy]

cont

 

[gaff]

Hey Gaff,

The latewar.com site describes this stock as a semi-kriegsmodell specific to bcd, who never got any further than relocating the take down hole. Out of curiosity, what makes you think Czech? I know they used the same bcd pattern stock but is there something that jumps out at you and says "hey that's a Czech stock"?

I ask because the kid and I have started collecting the post war rifles and there's not a lot of good info out there.

Cheers.

appears to be a post war stock, not laminated, very fine finish no machine marks, blued buttplate.

 

[jbmauser]

Looks like a post war Czech refurb. Final acceptance on the receiver is e/749 not 740. The gun is a complete mix master of WW2 and post war parts. Still collectible in it's own right and the post war refurbs make great shooters.

 

[Airborn_69]

Sling is a 1907 competition one, not a K98k, likely put after its import to North America.

 

[mcgunguy]

Sling is a 1907 competition one, not a K98k, likely put after its import to North America.

Thank you all for your insights. Looks like it is a post war Czech refurb bdc 1944 k98k with a 1907 competition sling.

My opa picked it up from a customers trunk back in the 60s. He survived the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands During ww2, and recognized the rifle instantly. Shot it once, and kept it in his safe. I was told he resisted the urge to grab one from a German soldier and start shooting at them on a daily basis. Brutal times.