UPDATE: Jan. 22, 2013 - Blue Line is proud to announce... the MPA-RC 556 Rifle!

Status
Not open for further replies.
diablo_man said:
To those wanting AR fire controls, half the point of trying to get a special version of this gun into canada is so that it is not restricted like the AR, and even the most tenuous link to the AR makes it that much more likely the RCMP would make it restricted, at which point you might as well have an AR.
Click to expand...

I couldn't agree more. From what I can tell this isn't intended to be another AR and, frankly, there are more than enough AR options in Canada. This is an option for people who want to get into the black rifle game and are not necessarily inclined to go to the range. If people are upset because they can't install their AR trigger group in this rifle, they are missing the point.
 
HobbesT said:
I couldn't agree more. From what I can tell this isn't intended to be another AR and, frankly, there are more than enough AR options in Canada. This is an option for people who want to get into the black rifle game and are not necessarily inclined to go to the range. If people are upset because they can't install their AR trigger group in this rifle, they are missing the point.
Click to expand...

This gun makes perfect sense for the Canadian market, the surprise is more in the US were they can lug their ARs around.
 
HobbesT said:
I couldn't agree more. From what I can tell this isn't intended to be another AR and, frankly, there are more than enough AR options in Canada. This is an option for people who want to get into the black rifle game and are not necessarily inclined to go to the range. If people are upset because they can't install their AR trigger group in this rifle, they are missing the point.
Click to expand...

Indeed.

This rifle would lose its edge entirely if it is classed as restricted. I'd just go buy some equally priced Armalite if I wanted to go to the range.
 
The safety rotation will be a deal maker or breaker for me. If the safety rotates the opposite of the AR family of firearms I will pass.

The safety and bolt hold open are what I am waiting to hear more about. Those two items keep me on the fence.
 
Yes everyone, lets all say "I will pay $1479064 for a new rifle", the manufacturer and dealers will maximize profit and the user will be left with a cheaper gun.

If the price is $1200, but the gun is not well engineered or built with quality materials, then I do not want one.

It's like walking into a car dealer and saying that the sticker price is a good deal, you lose your bargaining position the second you open your mouth.

Let them release the finished rifle, decide what price they want for it, and pity the morons that overpay for a cheap rifle.

Now if they release a good rifle, well priced, and keep up with demand, I will support that business.
 
Daver_II said:
Yes everyone, lets all say "I will pay $1479064 for a new rifle", the manufacturer and dealers will maximize profit and the user will be left with a cheaper gun.

If the price is $1200, but the gun is not well engineered or built with quality materials, then I do not want one.
Click to expand...
The point is, AFAIU, the Canadian market needs an entry/mid level, non-restricted, black rifle. Currently, the only real option we have is the SU-16, from Kel-Tec, but very scarce supply. The upper price range is filled with potential option, XCR variants sales for around $2500, a Tavor for $2800. On the restricted side, a Windham Weaponry AR-15 sales for $1200, most AR-15 are below $2000.

My personal upper limit would be around $1500. Anywhere between $1000 and $1500 would be great.
 
Btw, not sure if it has already been posted, but Sturmgewehre did a quick review during Shot Show:

[youtube]RgFG7esxFS0[/youtube]
 
x0ra said:
The point is, AFAIU, the Canadian market needs an entry/mid level, non-restricted, black rifle. Currently, the only real option we have is the SU-16, from Kel-Tec, but very scarce supply. The upper price range is filled with potential option, XCR variants sales for around $2500, a Tavor for $2800. On the restricted side, a Windham Weaponry AR-15 sales for $1200, most AR-15 are below $2000.

My personal upper limit would be around $1500. Anywhere between $1000 and $1500 would be great.
Click to expand...

Exactly. This will be likely hit the market before Armalite ever decides to go ahead with another AR180B type rifle. It also fits perfectly what I'd like to see in a non-restricted "black type rifle". Light weight, AR ergonomics and modularity, and a folding stock. That feature sold me on the design.

I was thinking about getting a ZM upper that would allow the folding stock on one of my ARs but then I'd just end up with another expensive restricted rifle. DON'T WANT.

Let's let this gun make it on the market first and then talk about calibre choices, barrel lengths and the like. From the vids I've seen from Shot it has AR fire controls (much like the AR180B) and if the safety selector rotates differntly I could care less. I want something different and we sure as hell don't need another AR or a super expensive non-restricted like the XCR and others.
 
Hey guys,

I can assure everyone that we are looking at the posts in here and we're gauging levels of interest on certain features including the twist rate of the barrel. Keep in mind though, that as Ryan said earlier, this is the beginning of a very long process, and our primary focus is to get the MPA-RC into Canada with a Non-Restricted certification. At present, we are talking with MPA to design the MPA-RC to suit Canadian firearms law and help ensure a smooth passage through the RCMP certification process. Though the MPA-RC may look similar in some ways to the Leader Dynamics rifle, there is no parts commonality / interchangeability whatsoever between the designs. Think of it like this: the Robinson Arms XCR uses a similar piston and bolt design from the Kalashnikov, but it isn't an AK.

We're doing our best to keep the MSRP within our target of ~$1199.00, but these alterations may affect the price. Every piece of these rifles will be made in-house by MPA specifically for the Canadian market on state-of-the-art CNC machines except the plastic stocks and some springs. From speaking with Ryan and seeing in depth pictures and reviews of the Masterpiece Arms rifle I can assure everyone that the quality, engineering and value of these rifles will be hard to beat.

I would ask everyone to be patient and bear with us as we push through this lengthy process.

Pat
Blue Line Team
 
Blue Line said:
Hey guys,

I can assure everyone that we are looking at the posts in here and we're gauging levels of interest on certain features including the twist rate of the barrel. Keep in mind though, that as Ryan said earlier, this is the beginning of a very long process, and our primary focus is to get the MPA-RC into Canada with a Non-Restricted certification. At present, we are talking with MPA to design the MPA-RC to suit Canadian firearms law and help ensure a smooth passage through the RCMP certification process. Though the MPA-RC may look similar in some ways to the Leader Dynamics rifle, there is no parts commonality / interchangeability whatsoever between the designs. Think of it like this: the Robinson Arms XCR uses a similar piston and bolt design from the Kalashnikov, but it isn't an AK.

We're doing our best to keep the MSRP within our target of ~$1199.00, but these alterations may affect the price. Every piece of these rifles will be made in-house by MPA specifically for the Canadian market on state-of-the-art CNC machines except the plastic stocks and some springs. From speaking with Ryan and seeing in depth pictures and reviews of the Masterpiece Arms rifle I can assure everyone that the quality, engineering and value of these rifles will be hard to beat.

I would ask everyone to be patient and bear with us as we push through this lengthy process.

Pat
Blue Line Team
Click to expand...

I wouldn't change anything... Saw the video review posted above (aside from him referring to AR parts on it which would be bad for us) and I think it looks awesome the way it is!
 
You guys are great, I will be keeping an eye out for this, especially around that price. There are lots of expensive options out there, we need one like this!

EDIT: Will these have chrome-lined barrels? I don't know if I'm too blind to see this, and will the folding stock still cover the ejection port?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom