Updated Experience at The Shooting Edge

JayLei3000

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So a few months ago, I had an experience at The Shooting Edge, which I had posted about, that made me lose a lot of respect for this organization. On the CGN community, people shared similar experiences, and some less than refined individuals had made some less than worthwhile comments.

I believe in sharing customer experiences with business decision makers because it allows them the opportunity to know what is going on, and how to change and improve their business.

I am happy to say that, after JR, the owner of TSE had reached out to me personally, I had a need to make a purchase from his store, that resulted in such a GREAT experience, that I have to share it as well.

Today was a busy day in their store, with phones ringing, customers waiting around for help, and new shooters waiting to get into the range. Much different from last time though, as soon as I walked into the store, within a minute I was greeted by someone who asked if I needed some help. I told them I was looking for someone named Sam, and he quickly told me that as soon as Sam was free, and he was done with his customer, he would connect me with him. He had just helped a customer look at some handguns before he turned right over to me to acknowledge me. I had worn some sunglasses and a hat so as to not be recognized, and really wanted to see if the change in customer service was authentic.

I can say with confidence it was. The employees were focused on the customers and worked one after another after another to make sure everyone, including myself was helped.

I ended up picking up a new Fabarm Shotgun, along with a small shell carrier. I had mentioned I wasn't a fan of the pistol grip on the shotgun. Within minutes, Sam (the employee that was then helping me) had located a traditional shotgun stock in the back, along with an OEM shell carrier. On top of that, he took the time to offer and install both components for me on the new shotgun, and even took the care to Locktite the new screws. All amidst a busy traffic of customers. I spent some time browsing the store while he was doing this, and throughout his time I had two gentlemen come and politely and unobtrusively ask if I needed help. Both with professional and pleasant demeanor. I was impressed.

JR, I am not sure if you had a team meeting, or took the time to talk to your people about customer service, but today everyone that I noticed demonstrated professionalism and focus on the people that were in the store. The personal touch you added was also greatly appreciated!

Now THIS is a gun range that I wouldn't mind (and would happily) visit, and visit often, and recommend. My hat goes off to you and your team for this renewed sense of focus on people.

I would easily summarize today as one of the best experiences I have had in a gun-store, period, and I am glad to be able to share this with the community.
 
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Very cool of you to post your positive experience. Often we only ever hear the bad....

On a side note - congrats on the Fabarm. I bought one (STF/12) as my first shotgun and love it. Amazing quality and looks. Congrats.
 
+1 the folks on the floor are great people and always willing to help (and sam specifically has gone above and beyond several times). thx for sharing jay
 
We often see negative reviews on certain business but this is the opposite. Good on them getting your business and I hope you no longer need shade and hat whenever in store or do you want this to be a norm.
 
While I'm glad you had a positive experience, I will not spend one red cent (although i guess it's now a nickle) in this establishment based on the actions of the owner with respect to the Swiss Arms fiasco. There's throwing gun owners under the bus, then there's throwing them under the bus, getting in, driving over them and then backing up for good measure.

How this business remained a site sponsor defies belief. To-date only one manufacturer has banned sales of their product from this store; apparently principals in this industry are few and far between... It never ceases to amaze me how quickly people forget or are willing to let bygones by bygones. So be it.

I'm sure this comment or thread will be deleted/locked, but if it serves to make one more person aware of these shenanigans then it served its purpose.
 
I will say, some time ago, whilst making a purchase, I had a very sub standard customer service experience at the Edge. After putting some thought into it, I emailed JR and asked if he would like some honest feedback. His reply was a resounding "absolutely". I detailed my experience, without exaggerating or minimising anything. JR responded promptly. He told me he had reviewed the video, agreed with me, addressed it directly with the employee and apologised for me experiencing it.
I don't think you can ask for any better response than that!!
 
While I'm glad you had a positive experience, I will not spend one red cent (although i guess it's now a nickle) in this establishment based on the actions of the owner with respect to the Swiss Arms fiasco. There's throwing gun owners under the bus, then there's throwing them under the bus, getting in, driving over them and then backing up for good measure.

How this business remained a site sponsor defies belief. To-date only one manufacturer has banned sales of their product from this store; apparently principals in this industry are few and far between... It never ceases to amaze me how quickly people forget or are willing to let bygones by bygones. So be it.

I'm sure this comment or thread will be deleted/locked, but if it serves to make one more person aware of these shenanigans then it served its purpose.

I don't know the intimate details of this, but I've heard summaries. I can totally understand why someone would never come back here if they were caught in that whole Swiss Arms mess...

I guess, I can only believe that, all people make mistakes. Some are harder to admit to and talk about than others. And I don't think that makes people inherently bad. Bad decisions don't make bad people or bad businesses. Forgiveness may sound cliche and it's the choice of each individual but it can go a long ways. I just don't see how holding on to people's mistakes indefinitely benefits anyone?

Just my thoughts!
 
While I'm glad you had a positive experience, I will not spend one red cent (although i guess it's now a nickle) in this establishment based on the actions of the owner with respect to the Swiss Arms fiasco. There's throwing gun owners under the bus, then there's throwing them under the bus, getting in, driving over them and then backing up for good measure.

How this business remained a site sponsor defies belief. To-date only one manufacturer has banned sales of their product from this store; apparently principals in this industry are few and far between... It never ceases to amaze me how quickly people forget or are willing to let bygones by bygones. So be it.

I'm sure this comment or thread will be deleted/locked, but if it serves to make one more person aware of these shenanigans then it served its purpose.

Spoken like a true sheep. Perhaps some due diligence research into the RC's actions over the last decade in regards to this would serve you well. They are the ones you need to be concerned with, and not just for these.

JL - glad to hear you were treated well, I think that's all we ask for as customers.
 
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I have always had good time at the edge. Sometimes pretty busy but the staff are always friendly and helpful when I go in there. Really really wish I could shoot my surplus ammo there though.....
 
That's good to hear. When I went to pick up a rifle from there recently a cocky range officer threatened me (he was carrying) at the gun counter without me having done any wrong. Having been a range supervisor myself, if he were my employee he would have gotten a stern talking to (if not being fired), but the staff seemed to not care that he had just threatened a customer. People who abuse power like that should not work in such places.
 
That's good to hear. When I went to pick up a rifle from there recently a cocky range officer threatened me (he was carrying) at the gun counter without me having done any wrong. Having been a range supervisor myself, if he were my employee he would have gotten a stern talking to (if not being fired), but the staff seemed to not care that he had just threatened a customer. People who abuse power like that should not work in such places.

Sir, if you can give me any details about the incident, I would be happy to follow up with this.

Regards,

JR
 
That's good to hear. When I went to pick up a rifle from there recently a cocky range officer threatened me (he was carrying) at the gun counter without me having done any wrong. Having been a range supervisor myself, if he were my employee he would have gotten a stern talking to (if not being fired), but the staff seemed to not care that he had just threatened a customer. People who abuse power like that should not work in such places.

Quite the accusation. You didn't goto the police? Or even CGN-court? Weird.
 
Back in May, I was looking for a range to join and was struggling between the Shooting Edge and the Shooting Center. Both for me personally had their merits and their detractors so I decided to ask some questions of each. I went online to each stores website, detailed how I am a long time "walk on" shooter looking for a new long term range membership and asked he same four questions.....JR was the only one who got back to me, that alone spoke volumes!! Taking it one step further JR spend a fair amount of time trading email with me entertaining my questions. In addition, he worked with me to "approve" some ammo that I liked to use as it was one of my concerns about TSE and not being able to shoot anything I want ammo wise. Needless to say, I am now a member!!!

As for the Swiss thing, granted I don't know all the intimate details but there was a LOT of mud slinging both fact and fictional from everyone...especially from those not involved. One thing to remember is, regardless of how you feel, JR has also contributed a lot to the shooting community. We need to focus our efforts on Turdo and his minions.....not on people within our ranks!!!!!
 
I don't know the intimate details of this, but I've heard summaries. I can totally understand why someone would never come back here if they were caught in that whole Swiss Arms mess...

I guess, I can only believe that, all people make mistakes. Some are harder to admit to and talk about than others. And I don't think that makes people inherently bad. Bad decisions don't make bad people or bad businesses. Forgiveness may sound cliche and it's the choice of each individual but it can go a long ways. I just don't see how holding on to people's mistakes indefinitely benefits anyone?

Just my thoughts!

Well this comment and the one.directly below it make me shake my head. This wasn't a lack of judgement for a moment. He thoughtfully, and maliciously tried to rat out the competition. Started the ball rolling on the Swiss arms/CZ fiasco. Along comes C42, a less than helpful bill, as it turned out ....all we got......should/could have been more.....from our *friends the CPC. Never....ever a nickel in that store.
 
Well this comment and the one.directly below it make me shake my head. This wasn't a lack of judgement for a moment. He thoughtfully, and maliciously tried to rat out the competition. Started the ball rolling on the Swiss arms/CZ fiasco. Along comes C42, a less than helpful bill, as it turned out ....all we got......should/could have been more.....from our *friends the CPC. Never....ever a nickel in that store.

I'd be interested to hear JR speak to this directly. I don't think anyone has out-right given him a chance to put his thoughts and actions up for official public scrutiny, at least on the forums? For those of us (including myself) who does not know this story well, I would be really inclined to hear him out before dropping the gauntlet on him. I do wonder if someone had held a gun to his head (figuratively speaking, and definitely no pun intended) that caused some less than popular actions, that perhaps we haven't or can't know about?

I think about a recent unnamed business owner who I had spoken to discretely, who had an unnamed enforcement entity not just threaten their business and personal well-being to the point of losing everything, including their freedom, but furthermore did it in a way where they had them sign non-disclosures that actually prevented the business owner from ever being able to publicly talk about their tribulations. And that only made things worse for them... they were never even able to talk about what had happened.
 
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Well this comment and the one.directly below it make me shake my head. This wasn't a lack of judgement for a moment. He thoughtfully, and maliciously tried to rat out the competition. Started the ball rolling on the Swiss arms/CZ fiasco. Along comes C42, a less than helpful bill, as it turned out ....all we got......should/could have been more.....from our *friends the CPC. Never....ever a nickel in that store.

If you believe that the RCMP were not already poised to reclassify the swiss prior to any involvement JR may have had, you are quite ignorant.

And if you believe that JR had any influence on the CZ reclassification, you are incredibly ignorant.

And if you don't compare the CZ and Swiss reclassifications, than you are ignoring the similarities in the scenarios. If you do compare them, it should be obvious the reclassification was iminent and coming soon regardless of JR's involvement.
 
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