Updated, My first Rifle build with pics, need some design input for next stock.

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Small update on post 24.


So I spent the past week in the shop building my first rifle after cancelling a factory one that wasn't arriving.

.260rem caliber.
Barnard S action
Bartlien 6.5mm 30" 5R 8twist (finished it at around 29.65 ")
Jewell 1.5-3oz trigger
Sightron 8-32x56 Lrtd-tdt(1/8 clicks)
Barnard 17moa rail.
Nightforce ultralite rings.

All components were bought from Hirsch Precision, excellent service.

I ended up spending a couple days making tooling like an action wrench, cathead for the steady as my lathe's headstock is too big to do it through and my Cyclematic 618evs lathe is a bit too small.

I really wanted to make my own stock in aluminium, this is really just a Prototype. I essentially drew a few lines on a piece it material and rolled with that, left most pieces a bit long to trim back after. I really wanted a rifle I could get right behind of as I don't really like tilting my head too much when trying to look through a scope. Overall it was a really fun project and now I have about 50 changes to do to the stock so as soon as time allows I'll be doing something more refined.
All parts are just as machined. No recoil pad on it yet, and at around 18.5-19lbs with scope on I doubt she'll kick very much.

Recoild lug is under the action, made it to fit a tight counterbore in the stock. Action is not bedded at this time, just sits on 3 contact lines, main being the bottom and then just touches at the top line of the stock, will see how that does, I gotta buy a right angle head for the mill...

If you guys have some extra input about things that could be changed or what some people might be looking for in a stock I wouldn't mind adding it to the next one, haven't thought of a good patern to put on the sides of it yet where the actions sits and don't wanna do the 2-3 ball mill lines like most do. I'm hoping to get it to a point where it might be worth making a few for others as well if there's any demand for that, one of various things in mind.

I'm taking it to the range in a few hours if the plans don't change.

so here is the beast. Hopefully the pics will size ok.

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That's some very nice gear you got there. I've always wanted to try and make an aluminum stock too, your milling machine is quite a bit nicer than mine though :) I assume you aren't counting rotations of the hand wheels? hehe
 
For once, a real "Build"!!! Not the Cadillac Cimarron crap so often talked about here! That is a very interesting stock! The bag rider is very cool. If shooting from a rest, at least the option of a 76mm wide forestock rest rider platform would be a good idea in order to ride the bags in a front rest and to give some torque resistance. The straight butt pad might be uncomfortable, but addition of a recoil pad will work.


All-in-all one horny little gat you have there! Should be a great shooter for sure.
 
Nice job. That will work very nicely. I assume you are not trying to meet any type of competition spec?

the first thing I would suggest is to put something on that comb both for heat and vibration. I am sure you will find spots to contour and modify but you are off to a great start.

The alum chassis stock is quickly becoming the way stocks are manf. There are always zillions of way to refine and tweak but mostly its for cosmetics then ergonomics

Send me a PM or email if you want to chat further.

Jerry
 
WOW A BUILD!! I was skeptical before having a look. I was thinking it was probably just a bone stock Savage or Remington with a scope (which seems to be the usual "builds" I've been seeing on here lately). I was pleasantly surprised. I always enjoy seeing the work of DIY guys, and experienced professionals.

I am very interested to see how this baby shoots. Keep us updated on groups and load development. I am interested to see how the Bartlein shoots.

Did you ream the chamber to a 6.5x284 or 6.5x47 ?? Too many 6.5's out there, you have to be more specific. :p:p:p
 
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WOW A BUILD!! I was skeptical before having a look. I was thinking it was probably just a bone stock Savage or Remington with a scope (which seems to be the usual "builds" I've been seeing on here lately). I was pleasantly surprised. I always enjoy seeing the work of DIY guys, and experienced professionals.

I am very interested to see how this baby shoots. Keep us updated on groups and load development. I am interested to see how the Bartlein shoots.

Did you ream the chamber to a 6.5x284 or 6.5x47 ?? Too many 6.5's out there, you have to be more specific. :p:p:p
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I believe he said .260Rem in the first post.
Kim
 
Very nice, I assume you put this together for F/open? Like Jerry said, a nice piece of wood on your cheek-piece to fit your face will go a long ways as far as comfort goes. I'd also look at building a custom fitted pistol grip.
 
Back from the range, it was -3C which was definitely not working in my favor, along with nearly everything else. I first set up at 100yards with loads of N160 and 139gr scenars. I cleaned the bore after each of the first 10 shots, 5 of them were at 36gr first 3 I shot at the bank and 2 of them are on the right, one is by itself, and other is at the bottom where I wrote sighter next to it. 36.5's group was shot with cleaning between each shot.
Problem is they were all seated about .040" from the lands as it was my first time reloading and I loaded those for the rifle I canceled, being hopeful it was gonna arrive at some point.

I only had it resting on that crappy front rest from the pics(got a proper one in mind which I'll build soon) but I don't have sandbags yet so I put a towel under it, and about 3" thick of towels to support the back end so I was still doing most of the supporting and aligning by hand... blue frozen hands by then. So after freezing for the first 10 shots I fired the rest of them on this target in about 5 minutes to move to another spot at 200yard. Problem is at 200yard I was now on different reloads, 123grs scenars and N160, best group with that was .75", then went to a few I loaded with H4350 and 1gr increments in 139 and 123's and fired those off quick and didn't get anything much better than 1.1-1.5", daylight was almost gone and really wanted to get home by then. Probably should have stuck to the 100yard range to waste all those reloads and gone home.

Plus side is I discovered a few more things I don't like about the layout of it, and one of the first things to go will be that grip, way too darn cold to hold. I should take a picture with the rear end of the stock removed, looks like one huge pistol.
No recoil issues though even if it has no pad. I do have material here to make a better cheek rest, some nice 1/8" padded foam/nylon thing.

Anyhow, looking forward to building a better stock for it and to get all the other equipment I need and do some proper reloads to match it, probably also gonna look into a scale with higher accuracy than .1gr as this one also drifts a bit.
Overall not a bad way to spend the week. Btw, first time shooting anything stronger than .22lr in 10yrs, and even so only shot 22lr 5 times this year and nothing the last 9-10 prior to that other than the odd porcupine so my skills are next to none in terms of proper shooting or practice. Past practice was mainly random hunting as a kid in QC, 16yrs ago and that was mainly with a 410 so not used to scopes at all.


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I am most familiar with H4831SC for the 260/139-140gr bullet and you will be using alot more powder. Ideal speed is around 2700 to 2800fps for this case

You will likely find alot of dispersion when you start testing further with the loads you are testing now.

I am glad that you discovered the joys of alum and skin. Not much fun at high or low temps.

Good luck with your development. I am sure this rig will do very well for you.

Enjoy

Jerry
 
The majority of the machining itself is all quite simple and I kept all the shapes relatively square, a bit like a wireframe to then be able to measure and modify everything off of, saves a lot of time, its something I learned from a good engineer who is very hands on with his creations. Gotta say trying to design a few things of my own lately has added a lot of respect for the engineers who's prototypes and products I make for a living.

So now I clean the shop, take this rifle apart and start making a better next one. This stock was probably a 1 time use unless I do something else with it later.
At spring time I hope to add 1500sq/ft of space, at which time I plan to set up to do various paints/coatings and decorative anodizing. Some of it would be useful for some current customers and if I can use it for this hobby all the better.

Any thoughts on what to engrave on the sides? thought about a big maple leaf, or just a flag looking thing.

Also any leads on where to find the best selection of good pistol grips that would fit on a rifle would be awesome, kinda wanna order a few models and see what works.

Also, how practical are the folding stocks, is there much reason/need for it? I figure it's not exactly compact either way but I'm wondering if I should make 2-3 versions of rear ends that could bolt up on it.



Jerry, I'll be trying some H4831SH as well thanks. Regarding seating depth I should probably move it up to around .010" off the lands next time eh?
 
I like where your going with this. I wish I had the tooling to make things like that.
Here is a website for a comparison of a bunch of AR grips. If your making a new stock it should be easy enough to design it to accept AR grips.
http:// militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/07/27/21-ar-grips-compared/
 
I think I'd like it if the skid on the bottom of the stock had a vertical surface at the front, so that there was something to pull it into your shoulder with.
 
10 thou off the lands and work up with H4831SC lit with CCI BR2 or Fed 210M primers. It will be very obvious where the best high node is.

There is very good potential for what you can do so give me a shout. Love to talk shop

Jerry
 
Pm me if you want more pictures of just the stock for future referance and ideas, this one works well in the configuration it is in, also the side "wings" make riding in the bags really slick.........

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yodave, how is the action seated in that stock?

That's one thing I'm really debating as ideally I'd like to make something that various actions can easily be set into, but it seems the only way to have versatility is to have to glass bed to fill the gaps as there's too much variation between makes and factory 700's and so on, and having to properly machine each stock to fit individual actions would be a PITA, and might well yield no benefits in the end.
So for the next stock I might just do a rough stepped v and bed it.
 
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