Upgrades for my new M14

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Okay so I finally got my hands on a brand new Norinco M14.

What are your suggestions in terms of upgrades? I want to keep it non-restricted so the Socom barrel is out of the question (even though I want it)

Also, scope mount and bi-pod are on their way so I'm just looking for some advice on the working components.


Cheers!
 
how long is a piece of string?"mods" for the 14 et al are as much as your wallet can afford- some folks have it fully tricked out, others prefer it straight stock- aside from taking a clinic, ( which will teach you all you need to know about the platform) about the only thing you NEED to do to it is REPLACE THE REAR SIGHT AND STOCK- preverably with the usgi fiberglas; but that's just me- you haven't mentioned WHICH bi-pod and scope mount are coming,and the scope mount can be a major factor in accuracy- if it's aluminum, you've wasted money, as steel and aluminum EXPAND at different rates; read the stickies and decide for yourself- there's VOLUMES of stuff written on this platform; but beware that it's got limitations, it won't shoot like most bolts unless you learn LOAD DEVELOPMENT as well as tricking out the rifle- it's got "hunting " accuracy right out of the box, but precision ( if you can call it that) takes both TIME and money- I have 4 m14s and i've got books on each one of them re loads, different characteristics, etc- they ALL shoot about 1 inch at 100 in 5 inch groups, with a 4x12 scope and bipod, but that's using a load that's TAILORED to the rifle- that rifle, start swtching ammo around , and you're back to square 1
 
T-star has smart suggestions. I'd also give it a thorough going over to make sure everything is in spec, correcting where necessary. Often parts are too loose or clearances non-existent where there should be clearance (stock to op rod, hand guard to stock, hand guard to barrel ring). I would chisel out some clearance and epoxy in a threaded plate half way between the mag well and the sling plate for the bipod mount. Get a tactical sling if you intend to carry it hunting.
 
i just drilled out one of the rivets in the forward sling swivel and put a sling swivel stud and t-nut in there- there's 2 schools of thought when mounting a bipod: one says mount the bipod as near as possibe to the point of balance, the other says as far forward as possible to support the far end of the barrel; get some pictures of m14 competition rifles and you tell me- some folks also mount it in the drain hole( gas vent hole is what everybody calls it, but that's not what it is- it's just a happy coincidence that it lines up with the gas vent ) and harris makes a threaded monting plate- it's the same one as used for the ar15a2- and if you got the so-called "military" bipod, that mouints off the gas cylinder, it's JUNK- even the usgi ones- the second you go prone, it throws the barrel off by impacting the ground with the legs- i moved my sling furniture to the top of the rear and the side like an m60 - learned that one from the guys in nam, and if you don't want to move the front sling, tie a zip tie to that and mount your sling to that- be aware that you'll need a sling of 6 foot or more, though, to ride right at hip level, forward
 
I could be wrong, but this site has examples of what they can and cannot ship to Canada. I think you CAN buy a set of rear sights here:

treelinem14 . com/Sights_c12.htm


Edit: I successfully placed an order this morning and remember, your order has to be under $100 from the USA (you can't combine parts over $100. They have to be on a separate invoice, that means paying twice for shipping.

Well....it looks like they will ship USGI synthetics too...but again, I could be wrong...I tried the order form and it doesn't leave Canada out.

Order for the rear sight shipped today....

Note that these are brand new not an Ebay offering that are used.
 
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If you're not scoping it, just slap a USGI stock on it and be done.

Here's what I've done to mine so far:

*Re-aligned op-rod guide, falls now at 25-30 degree angle instead of 45 and lines up with gas piston.

*Peened gas system to eliminate play.

*Had side mount screw re-tapped to 1/4inch for scope stability.

*Dry cycled action a few hundred times to smooth out trigger

*Replaced stock with USGI fiberglass.

*Harris bipod.

I'm into this gun now for under $700.00 without the scope. I tightened up the gas system and aligned the op rod guide myself. I had a gunsmith check the tolerances of the gun and re-drill my side mount (it wasn't standard to begin with, some chinese metric I think).

Here's what I paid:

* Gunsmith inspection and side mount drilling $60
* USGI stock $125
* Harris bipod $100
* Leapers scope mount $60
* 2007 m305 $399
* Match Op rod spring guide $30
=$774 total

It was shooting 1.5 inches @ 100y before the spring guide, gas assembly tightening, op rod guide alignment, and USGI stock. I'm hoping these mods will bring it down a bit. The gunsmith said the trigger on my gun is really good, and had me compare mine to a few of his. I think he's right, it's very smooth compared to other norincos and springfields.

We'll see how it shoots next weekend. I'm going to spend tomorrow making ammo for the thing.
 
anonovic.aleksandar said:
Yes I've been looking for a USGI rear sight but most of the sellers are in the U.S. Canadian ones are out of stock. Or am I not looking hard enough?
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yes, you're not looking hard enough , or in the right place- what you want is
a GARAND rear sight, and there's a guy in italy that has supplied most of us through fleabay-someone here can supply the details
 
Rocket Surgery said:
If you're not scoping it, just slap a USGI stock on it and be done.

Here's what I've done to mine so far:

*Re-aligned op-rod guide, falls now at 25-30 degree angle instead of 45 and lines up with gas piston.

*Peened gas system to eliminate play.

*Had side mount screw re-tapped to 1/4inch for scope stability.

*Dry cycled action a few hundred times to smooth out trigger

*Replaced stock with USGI fiberglass.

*Harris bipod.

I'm into this gun now for under $700.00 without the scope. I tightened up the gas system and aligned the op rod guide myself. I had a gunsmith check the tolerances of the gun and re-drill my side mount (it wasn't standard to begin with, some chinese metric I think).

Here's what I paid:

* Gunsmith inspection and side mount drilling $60
* USGI stock $125
* Harris bipod $100
* Leapers scope mount $60
* 2007 m305 $399
* Match Op rod spring guide $30
=$774 total

It was shooting 1.5 inches @ 100y before the spring guide, gas assembly tightening, op rod guide alignment, and USGI stock. I'm hoping these mods will bring it down a bit. The gunsmith said the trigger on my gun is really good, and had me compare mine to a few of his. I think he's right, it's very smooth compared to other norincos and springfields.

We'll see how it shoots next weekend. I'm going to spend tomorrow making ammo for the thing.
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don't forget the popsicle mod if you put a usgi stock on a chinese stock- otherwise the op-rod pin will drop out and BAAAD things happen
 
That was already taken care of thankfully. Now I just have to decide when the stock gets THE CHOP

I think I'll wait until hunting season is over. It's hard being a city redneck, you have to plan your gun activities months in advance because you're always caught up in some pointless rat race task.

There are times when you just want to pay $7.00 for a coffee and buy an $800.00 vintage bicycle in your skinny jeans and converse all stars. It'd just be so easy to sit around and talk about wine pairings or how to solve the world's problems, but I'd rather stab a catfish in the face or listen to AC/DC
 
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Shoot it for a while and get used to it. Just change the spring guide to one of the SS ones. Shooting a couple hundred rounds will shake the gun up. If there are any problems with the gun it should show up. Spend the money on ammo first, then make the changes.
 
t-star said:
yes, you're not looking hard enough , or in the right place- what you want is
a GARAND rear sight, and there's a guy in italy that has supplied most of us through fleabay-someone here can supply the details
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..."guy in Italy" is ghostkill@libero.it

$55.00 + $15.00 shipping. I just ordered one and got confirmation...in Italian!

Thanks to chalkriver of CGN for providing the link.
 
can14 said:
Shoot it for a while and get used to it. Just change the spring guide to one of the SS ones. Shooting a couple hundred rounds will shake the gun up. If there are any problems with the gun it should show up. Spend the money on ammo first, then make the changes.
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X2. Read the stickies on shooting your M-14 with irons, I think theres a good one by J996. Put some rounds down range and become a marksman first. Even if you just want to play @ 100 with a scope and groupings, famalirity with your Rifle is nice. If you are like me you won't outshoot the rifle's accuracy, except on a bench rest. Bench it of course, with various factory loads or your own, this will give you a good data base for comparison on the improvements, or lack there of, generated by your upgrades. You can't beat shooting lots so as to fit around your rifle first , and then usually each accuracy improvement will bring a measurable,pleasurable, reward. :canadaFlag:
 
anonovic.aleksandar said:
Okay so I finally got my hands on a brand new Norinco M14.

What are your suggestions in terms of upgrades? I want to keep it non-restricted so the Socom barrel is out of the question (even though I want it)

Also, scope mount and bi-pod are on their way so I'm just looking for some advice on the working components.


Cheers!
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You may want to read these:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=621208

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=623846
 
btw, if you're sighting in, the proper round count is 5- not 3- 3 is cheating and really doesn't give you an idea of how or where the rifle will group- the chances of you getting a couple of "fliers" in a 5 round group are reatively small, but if you go to 3's you don't know which to believe- 2 good rounds and one poor or the other way round- the way we used to do it was load 5, shoot, go paste the targets or measure the groups( centre to centre) and then come back to the line, charge the mag, and fire again- this does a couple of things- 1) you see how the rifle really groups; 2) cools the rifle off between groups; 3) locks the action to the rear so you don't have to unload, i.e. you KNOW you're dealing with an empty rifle- you can SEE it- but don't TRY to engage the SAFETY without COCKING IT
 
This is my m14 upgrade. Don't get me wrong, I love both my m14's, but they don't hold a candle to this one (Sorry Hungry)

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