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URGENT NOTICE TO BC HUNTERS:

The new hunting CORE Manual is showing the British Columbia Government's possible intent to abolish publicly accessible hunting lands by changing the definition of land titles across the province to “Private” and “First Nations Treaty Land” only. A webinar meeting, hosted by a Provincial moderator, was held on June 30th, 2020 to prompt questions that CORE Instructors had regarding the new “Indigenous Chapter.” The intent behind this meeting was to provide a medium for instructors to ask questions, most of which were in regards to what this new chapter indicates about the future of land titles in the province, and how according to the current hunting regulations, the material that would be taught in the manual would be factually incorrect. The following are quotes from the indigenous chapter of the new CORE manual: "With few exceptions, wherever you hunt in B.C., you will be hunting on the traditional territory or treaty lands of one or several Indigenous Nations..." and “Hunting on First Nation Reserves or Treaty lands, is a privilege and not a right. Permission is required." I spoke with an individual who had attended this webinar, and from their perspective it appeared to be quite clear that the First Nation representatives present were fully aware of the implications of the previously mentioned quotes. They stated that permission would have to be granted on an individual basis; a potential hunter would have to go onto the reservation of the First Nation peoples who owned the land that he/she wanted to hunt, in order to ask their permission to hunt there. That, according to the 2020 - 2022 synopsis, is incorrect. In the notes taken by these instructors, it is also mentioned that First Nations Peoples’ applications for TLE (Treaty Land Entitlement) have been submitted to the Provincial Government. One quote from a CORE instructor stated “many of these TLE requests would [if approved] effectively block public access to the back country.” That same instructor reiterated that “the rewrite of the CORE manual made it seem like only one ethnic group in British Columbia is concerned about conservation.” There are other concerns that CORE instructors have with the newly published manual, but it appears as though our government is more inclined to use their time pandering to First Nations Peoples instead of addressing the real world implications of this language, or the clear inconsistencies between the Hunting Synopsis and the CORE manual. The manual, I have on good authority, has ALREADY been printed, despite fact that there have been applications, but no approvals for TLE as of yet. This misinformation has troubling implications; the CORE Manual is presented as a first resource to inexperienced and often naive individuals who are taking the CORE program as a means to educate themselves. Furthermore, the discrepancy between the two publications suggests that either the BC Provincial Government is hiding something about the future of access to huntable lands, or these particular First Nations Peoples being consulted are openly pushing their own agenda.
 
This is already in another post about BC Regs by IronNoggin yesterday,
And also mentioned by bccanuk in that thread .
Yes, what is you solution to the problem about to befall BC Hunters ??

Rob
 
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this infringes on S.35 constitutional rights of Metis and Non status indians..... unbelievable.

we need a new political party in BC soon or this province will be utterly screwed and everyone will have to "pay to play:. This will include "all" back country users not just hunters.

hell at this point, for me, the province is already infringing on my S35 rights to hunt and fish by requiring me to buy a license and tags period. That's because I am Metis , not first nations.
so I am just as burned as all the other resident hunters out there.

I think my days of playing by their rules are coming to an end.
 
URGENT NOTICE TO BC HUNTERS:
They stated that permission would have to be granted on an individual basis; a potential hunter would have to go onto the reservation of the First Nation peoples who owned the land that he/she wanted to hunt, in order to ask their permission to hunt there.

I'm sure for a fee that can be arranged.:rolleyes:
 
Just FYI... the liberal voter majority snowflakes who want legal guns banned to get rid of crime and gang violence will also fully 100% support ending hunting because nobody needs to hunt and nobody needs to kill all those cute animals when you can just buy meat in the supermarket

RIP BC, RIP Canada
 
Keep calm and keep on hunting. IMO its a God given right to hunt, not a privilege.

That line of reasoning will get you no where. Hunting is not something you do in some ideological construct. Its something you do in an actual place. Are you suggesting got gave you the right to hunt EVERYWHERE, without restriction?

I am not familiar with all of the nuances of indiginous land claims, but my understanding of the situation is this: European settlers came to North America, and engaged in contract/treaty negotiations in a language they didn't understand, for property they didn't own, based on a legal philosophy of property rights that the Indigenous people don't even ascribe to. For centuries the indigenous people have been claiming breach of contract and alternatively suing the government for either enforcement of the contract, damages, and/or termination. IN order to settle these disputes, the BC government is now proposing giving to the Indigenous groups something that they never owned in the first place, is that right?
 
British Columbia has consistently elected left and alt left Liberal governments for,at least,the last half century. It's said that "Canadians elect the government they deserve." WOW!! Who did you guys pi** off? It's not too late. Ontario finally figured it out after 20 years and if they can do it,YOU can do it.:cool:
 
Keep calm and keep on hunting. IMO its a God given right to hunt, not a privilege.

I'm sure the B.C. government dosen't look at it like that. You have no right to hunt in National or provincial parks. You have no right to hunt on private land and now no right to hunt on indigenous land (formerly known as crown land).

We are getting closer to the European model of hunting where you book and pay a private landowner for the privilege of hunting on his land. A sport where only the rich and well connected can indulge in.
 
That line of reasoning will get you no where. Hunting is not something you do in some ideological construct. Its something you do in an actual place. Are you suggesting got gave you the right to hunt EVERYWHERE, without restriction?

I am not familiar with all of the nuances of indiginous land claims, but my understanding of the situation is this: European settlers came to North America, and engaged in contract/treaty negotiations in a language they didn't understand, for property they didn't own, based on a legal philosophy of property rights that the Indigenous people don't even ascribe to. For centuries the indigenous people have been claiming breach of contract and alternatively suing the government for either enforcement of the contract, damages, and/or termination. IN order to settle these disputes, the BC government is now proposing giving to the Indigenous groups something that they never owned in the first place, is that right?

Do you really think such laws coming in place will stop me from hunting game? I have no need to ask for their permission. I will and do abide by the regulations in regards to game quota/legal harvest and would continue to do so even if they tried implementing such a law. That law will only cause more division and unrest and I'm sure there will be altercations between natives and British Columbian's.

We live in a land where all should abide by one set of laws. A Canadian is a Canadian and there shouldn't be any special privileges for specific groups. Time and time again we see that it causes more division the moment you start doing that. In my eyes its pretty much like a 2nd class citizen. Now if we bring the past up, what difference is there in regards to lands being taken away or conquered? Look at the map of Europe in the last 200 years you will see how much its changed yet in most places everyone is treated fairly and under one rule of law. You don't see modern day Germany crying out that it lost lands during the two world wars and wanting them back, you get the picture. Many countries/ethnic groups lost lands to one another.

We could also look at the fact that first nations originate from Asia so to say all this land was theirs is absurd. I'm sure they had certain territories but i highly doubt a west coast tribe would go out of the way and try and claim lands that was several hundred km's away as I'm sure it would have to rival another tribe to conquer it.
This argument is old. We as a society should be moving forward leaving the past behind hoping that dark history wont repeat itself.
 
Has anyone read what is written on the newer $10 bills? What a crock of #### that is.

We need a new government in bc and Canada. Time to abolish the Indian act and have one set of rules for everyone
 
Do you really think such laws coming in place will stop me from hunting game? I have no need to ask for their permission. I will and do abide by the regulations in regards to game quota/legal harvest and would continue to do so even if they tried implementing such a law. That law will only cause more division and unrest and I'm sure there will be altercations between natives and British Columbian's.

We live in a land where all should abide by one set of laws. A Canadian is a Canadian and there shouldn't be any special privileges for specific groups. Time and time again we see that it causes more division the moment you start doing that. In my eyes its pretty much like a 2nd class citizen. Now if we bring the past up, what difference is there in regards to lands being taken away or conquered? Look at the map of Europe in the last 200 years you will see how much its changed yet in most places everyone is treated fairly and under one rule of law. You don't see modern day Germany crying out that it lost lands during the two world wars and wanting them back, you get the picture. Many countries/ethnic groups lost lands to one another.

We could also look at the fact that first nations originate from Asia so to say all this land was theirs is absurd. I'm sure they had certain territories but i highly doubt a west coast tribe would go out of the way and try and claim lands that was several hundred km's away as I'm sure it would have to rival another tribe to conquer it.
This argument is old. We as a society should be moving forward leaving the past behind hoping that dark history wont repeat itself.

Bit of a difference between Europeans who came here a century or two ago and Natives who've lived here for 15 000 years, many of whom have creation stories that state they were here since the dawn of man (regardless of the truthfulness of such stories).

Don't get me wrong, this whole thing sounds like a boatload of bull####, but that's a poor comparison and not an argument that will get us anywhere.
 
I'm sure the B.C. government dosen't look at it like that. You have no right to hunt in National or provincial parks. You have no right to hunt on private land and now no right to hunt on indigenous land (formerly known as crown land).

We are getting closer to the European model of hunting where you book and pay a private landowner for the privilege of hunting on his land. A sport where only the rich and well connected can indulge in.


I can hunt my personal private property and i can hunt crown land as i have been doing most my life but to stop me now based off the folks who bow the knee to every law that comes in and surrender their freedom makes me laugh.
 
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