US exporter to Canada

Being down in the US right now, I'm looking at picking up a Sig P232 and a Kimber Ultra or Pro (paying for them in full, left in possession of the dealer of course, as I cannot legally buy them down here)...having the selling dealer get them converted to Cdn legal barrels, and then having them exported.

Can I have them shipped back to the selling dealer in MT after all is complete, and have the dealer meet me at the border crossing with them and simply take them from there to my residence with a STATT? The dealer is 15 minutes from the crossing, and I'm less than 20 miles from him....it sure would make things easier than shipping.

OR

Pay for them, pay to have them converted, and leave them at the dealer completed until I have amassed a new collection...then have them exported to Canada en mass via one of the previously mentioned exporters? Could end up being 4-5 guns the way I spend money...lol
 
Edward Teach said:
Maybe we should start a pool, and combine multiple orders into a single big one to reduce the import fees.
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Any body else like this idea?

No lets just start another 10 page rant about prices too high bad service...

I say go with sakoalberta and give ourselves some time say end of feburary to shop for some deals.
Like gunbroker.

Any body else like this idea?
 
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Backwoods said:
Can I have them shipped back to the selling dealer in MT after all is complete, and have the dealer meet me at the border crossing with them and simply take them from there to my residence with a STATT? The dealer is 15 minutes from the crossing, and I'm less than 20 miles from him....it sure would make things easier than shipping.

OR

Pay for them, pay to have them converted, and leave them at the dealer completed until I have amassed a new collection...then have them exported to Canada en mass via one of the previously mentioned exporters? Could end up being 4-5 guns the way I spend money...lol
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The first option you mentioned above would only work if the dealer is registered as an exporter with the U.S. Department of State, and gets the proper export license prior to meeting you at the border. Unfortunately, it's just not as easy as it used to be. When my grandpa owned our shop, he or my dad used to be able to just drive a gun to the border at a moment's notice. The good news is, if you go through a registered exporter such as ourselves, we've gotten pretty used to the whole process, and the U.S. Dept of State has been going rather quickly with approvals lately, usually within one week once we get everything submitted.

Calum said:
IMHO this is what the smart people do. :)
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The link posted above from DFAITCan is a good FAQ, but keep in mind it only covers the Canadian importer side. Note that it says:

"the US must issue an export licence to the American exporter. Prior to issuing this licence the US government requires that the Canadian importer present a document from Canada allowing this proposed transaction. To satisfy that US requirement Canadian residents may apply for an International Import Certificate (IIC)."​
click here for a link to our document and link of where to apply for an IIC
click here for a document called "Steps for Importing a Firearm into Canada"

Thus, as is suggested, a person can often save some good funds (and thus get more gun) by doing the Canadian import side themselves. But the exporter registration requirement is why most U.S. sellers won't export - the exporter registration is very complex and expensive. So, be sure to be in touch with one of us registered exporters, even if you're making import arrangements yourself. Otherwise the U.S. exporter could find themselves in jail with a hefty fine. And U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (I.C.E.) is not joking around. And I'm not trying to scare you into paying more, just giving fair warning. We've had a family friend arrested and jailed for accidently leaving his concealed carry pistol in his glovebox and heading north for dinner.

ruger22 said:
Any body else like this idea?

No lets just start another 10 page rant about prices too high bad service...

I say go with sakoalberta give ourselves some time to shop.
Like gunbroker.

Any body else like this idea?
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I'd be glad to help out as well. If you can get a group of a dozen guns, I can do it for $100 USD per gun presuming that none of them require gunsmith modification. I'm sure Clay at Prophet River could do a great job with it as well. We can store purchased guns at our shop for several months, no problem, if that's what it takes. Email export@davessports.com with the subject line "CGN December 09 Group Buy" for more info or to get started. For now, I'll set a contact deadline of Jan 31st, 2010, and see what we can have together by then.

Cheers,
 
Ted Restric said:
Leroy's Big Valley Gun Works will still do export but they are acting as an intermediary. The US State Department is the culprit here. They wanted to renew their license, but the US State Department wanted to charge them a retroactive fee for the previous business year - something like $45,000.00 USD. They even went to their state senator to protest and had lawyers involved to fight this injustice only to end up getting the run around from the Fed's. Denise, Leroy's wife even tried to get her own separate, new company formed to do exports - only to be denied once again by the Feds. They are currently working with a third party who was in a better position to continue their own license. In fact Profit River is using Leroy's to do their exports as well as Chip 9 Machining Ltd. in Weyburn SK. Chip 9 charges $126.00 plus any additional duty fees and inter Canada shipping charges required.
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It could be the way they were doing buisness up until last summer that the feds got sick and tired of them and put them on the bad list. A dozen of us at least got stone walled at the border crossing due to their practice of transferring the guns from their trunk to yours in 'no man's land'. We were the first group with Leroy to get shut down even though we were totally legal.

Leroy had to take all the guns home and ship them DHL to Calgary or Edmonton. Far as I know everyone eventually got their guns alright except for me. I have several hundred dollars damage done to them and missing parts with no one accepting responsibility.:rolleyes:

Take my advice and go with Prophet River. He picks them up at the border, he is great with communications and his knuckles don't drag like a Neanderthal at the fricking airport. :kickInTheNuts:
 
Noel said:
It could be the way they were doing buisness up until last summer that the feds got sick and tired of them and put them on the bad list. A dozen of us at least got stone walled at the border crossing due to their practice of transferring the guns from their trunk to yours in 'no man's land'. We were the first group with Leroy to get shut down even though we were totally legal.

Leroy had to take all the guns home and ship them DHL to Calgary or Edmonton. Far as I know everyone eventually got their guns alright except for me. I have several hundred dollars damage done to them and missing parts with no one accepting responsibility.:rolleyes:

Take my advice and go with Prophet River. He picks them up at the border, he is great with communications and his knuckles don't drag like a Neanderthal at the fricking airport. :kickInTheNuts:
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LeRoy's wasn't shut down because of the way they do business. Rather, the US Dept of State raised the registration fees retroactively, so they would have had to pay upwards of $30,000 to renew their export license for another year. We were just getting into exporting when this all happened, so fortunately we hadn't done as many transactions the previous year and thus our renewal fee wasn't as high.

The "no-mans land" you refer to is an interesting topic. With dozens of border deliveries so far, I've had zero trouble with this, but one CBSA agent did mention something about it once.

As far as I know, Prophet River is still using LeRoys as an intermediary to meet them at the border (with another fellow doing the export license paperwork). That's not to say anything bad about their service at all - I'm sure it's great and their fees are even a bit less than ours if you're doing just one gun, though the wait time would usually be longer as they wait and do batches at a time rather than doing the paperwork right away to ship directly to you as soon as the export license is approved.

Cheers all-
 
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I'd be glad to help out as well. If you can get a group of a dozen guns, I can do it for $100 USD per gun presuming that none of them require gunsmith modification. I'm sure Clay at Prophet River could do a great job with it as well. We can store purchased guns at our shop for several months, no problem, if that's what it takes. Email export@davessports.com with the subject line "CGN December 09 Group Buy" for more info or to get started. For now, I'll set a contact deadline of Jan 31st, 2010, and see what we can have together by then.

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count me in for 3 to 4 especially if you can get STI frame kits
 
Noel said:
Take my advice and go with Prophet River. He picks them up at the border, he is great with communications and his knuckles don't drag like a Neanderthal at the frocking airport. :contents:
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Noel
If you are talking about a customs officer we have one just like him at the Prince George airport also... Real piece of work that guy..
There are ways of dealing with them however since they are gov. employees..:D
 
nrut said:
Noel
If you are talking about a customs officer we have one just like him at the Prince George airport also... Real piece of work that guy..
There are ways of dealing with them however since they are gov. employees..:D
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I really can'tr say who did the damage but I can tell you I inspected each and every gun in Shelby and they were all as described by the sellers and intact. Somewhere between there and Glasgow to Utah to LAX to Calgary to Customs there is are more than a couple people who need to learn some respect for others property.

Clay was using Leroy, that is true, not sure if he still is or not. They are nice folks but very unprofessional and did not for a moment seem to have their Ducks in a row at the border. It was a bad fiasco.
 
I got several old Winchesters processed through Leroy's in MT and never had a problem. In my case, they obtained the US export permit and then shipped the guns to a location right at the border. I then went and processed the rifles through Canada Customs personally. If Clay is working with them and meeting them at the border, things should go very smoothly. Leroy's has truck loads of experience in obtaining US export permits.
 
I suspect it was the air freight and customs inspections that was my biggest problem. It just wouldn't make sense for Leroy to improperly package the five rifles in one box.
Another firearm was brought up with Clay after and it all went smoothly as far as export import goes.

As for Officer Lovejoy at the Sweetgrass crossing a great big thank you for what never had to happen.

Anyone considering getting their shipped by air please take heed and pay the seller extra to put the firearm in a hard gun case AND stuff packing fore and aft so the gun does not slide to one end or the other.
 
Got mine from Questar, expensive, but very, very fast and efficient. They received my guns at their US FFL Christmas Eve, and shipped them to me, transfers completed, on the 12th of January. Now, figure on a week on holidays in there too... that's fast. I didn't dream of seeing them for 2 months, if everything went well...
 
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