USA Shutdown

People cross oceans to get to America. Do you honestly think "The Wall" is going to stop them? There are already walls down there, and they go under and over them every single day. This is a political stunt, and nothing more.

It amazes me when people attack the left for their stupid ideas, but can't recognize one when it comes from the right. Political affiliations cause blindness on both sides of the spectrum and the sensible people in the middle are embarrassed for you.

Also, spell Border correctly if you're going to question someones intelligence on an immigration matter....

The best part about this shutdown is that Trump setup a bailout for farmers impacted by his trade war. One problem, he shutdown the government before it started paying out.
4D Chess everyone...
 
listen to this horse####,

Uhhh, kinda true

Trump agreed to sign a clean CR.
Senate passed a clean CR.
Ryan's House passed a dirty AF CR because Trump said he would no longer sign the clean CR because Fox News (specifically Hannity) called him on it.
Pelosi's House passes the clean CR that the Senate passed.

Trump and McConnell are the ones who are holding things up because they changed their minds. You don't give in to someone who cannot be trusted to stand by a previously made bargain which looking at Trump and how he has been his entire life in business is his modus operandi.

That said even though the Dems retabled the GOP budget which everyone agreed upon before there should be some movement on both sides if they are interested in country over party. Even then the wall will never get built as it will sit in limbo waiting for the eminent domain cases that will be involved to wait for their way to wind through all the courts and Texas ranchers will have to put up or shut up on whether to "Don't Mess with Texas" since they are the ones mostly affected.
 
Yes they Do, 20 million illegal immigrants milking the system and a Trillion dollar deficit. Now the Dems are for endless war. Trump won the election handily promising to bring the troops home, renegotiate terrible trade agreements and build the wall. Make it happen Don
 
Yes they Do, 20 million illegal immigrants milking the system and a Trillion dollar deficit. Now the Dems are for endless war. Trump won the election handily promising to bring the troops home, renegotiate terrible trade agreements and build the wall. Make it happen Don

Bring the troops home: IOW bail on the mess they made and have all the soldiers who have died in the GWOT have died in vain (justifiable or not that is what it is)
Renegotiate trade: NAFTA 2.0 has been better for Canada than it was for the US. All the agreements in that which we made were pretty much everything that was agreed in the TPP which Trump pulled out of (which for everyone else involved actually made the CPTPP mostly palatable once they yanked all the US parts out). He actually made it worse for their side as he hamstrung their negotiators because as long as he got what he wanted they were willing to capitulate on everything else. (this is coming from a friend who is a trade analyst in Global Affairs so you can't get much closer to the source)

The wall? Yeah I doubt you will see the first hole dug in the next 5 years and while at it they will need to fix their reliance on these undocumented workers, back in the day Bush 1 tried to do the same thing but the Orange lobby pointed out the typical American doesn't want to pay $10 for a bottle of OJ and how would that reflect in their vote next election. Compound that with the rest of their agricultural economy as it is probably worse now... The irony is that the people who voted for him are the ones who are being hurt the most by it.

And let's not talk to the coal miners who are starting to realize that those jobs are not coming back (which to be fair they were stupid in the first place as the industry has been slowly collapsing over the last 30 years and Trump made it even better when he started having peener fights with China which coincidentally was one of the biggest buyers of US coal).
 
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