Using 12 Gauge Slugs for Bear Defense? Here's a slug review you'll want to watch.

I can vouch for the effectiveness of a .510 450 gr bullet from a 50-70 on a 400+ lb black bear. Launched with 65 grs FFg, it penetrates and breaks bones at 100 yds.

The game cutter that did my last such bear handed me a recovered bullet with a flattened nose that gave the bullet a cross section measuring 5/8". It had gone through the heart and buried itself in the off shoulder. He went down and stayed down.

Slugs and big bullets work on bears.
 
Hey Brobee, stay with a Full choke if you're going to test 4 buck at about 20 yards. Years ago I did paper target tests and found Full to be the best answer with all buck shot sizes.
 
Hey Brobee, stay with a Full choke if you're going to test 4 buck at about 20 yards. Years ago I did paper target tests and found Full to be the best answer with all buck shot sizes.

Have extensively tested no.4 buck on the pattern board (as well as in ballistics gel) and whether or not I agree with you depends on if it has a flite control wad or not. If it's just a regular wad then I agree that full choke is the way to go. If your load has either federal's flite control or hornady's versa-tite wad, then cylinder bore will produce the tightest patterns.

Will be hunting with hornady's varmint express #4 buck in a cylinder bored gun. Purpose of test is to ground my gel test of the same load with a real life deer hunting experience.

Check out my YouTube channel (Brobee223) if you want to see my patterning and gel tests with this specific #4 buck load.

Cheers,

Brobee
 
wow, really enjoying this necro-thread and vids. Wishing I had some federal tru-balls or brenekke slugs now :(

Brobee, your soothing voice could sell ice to an eskimo!
 
Finally had the time to read through this post.

Glad to have picked up a box of Challenger slugs just yesterday, my other slugs are the Federal version of the soft Foster style.
 
*Paging Brobee*
Would you be interested in testing the Score brand of slugs? Loaded with BPI Thug Slugs in 1 oz and 1 1/8 oz and sold for under $25/25 rd box they're both the best value in factory loaded slugs and seem to be a cut above soft rifled slugs. I don't have the means or experience to do ballistic gel tests so I thought I'd pass the idea on to you. The Thug slugs hold up noticeably better when fired into wood as compared to other rifled slugs such as Winchester, Remington and Federal's plain rifled slug offerings. Wood however is a poor representative ballistic medium.
 
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