Using a sling on your Black Rifle

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Hey guys, I wanted to talk a little about slings and your rifles.

I had a conversation today with two other guys about clinics, courses, and other training that deals with slings and there seems to be a number of stumbling blocks guys have with slings on there black rifles, or other rifles as well.

Most would classify slings into 3 categories - One Point, Two Point and Three Point.

I prefer to use 4 categories - One Point, Two Point, Two Point Adjustable and Three Point.

One Point is a sling which is a basic loop and attaches to the rifle at a single point on the rifle.

Two Point is a sling which attaches to the rifle at the front and rear and can be considered a basic carry strap.

Two Point Adjustable is the same as the two point above, but has a quick adjust feature built in to adjust the length of the sling. Rifles that have this type of sling attached are usually worn in front of you with the muzzle down and the sling looped over your strong shoulder and under your weak arm.

Three Point sling can also be called the "patrol sling" "HK Sling" and is known by other names as well. It attaches to the front and back of the rifle like the two point, but has a strap(s) that attach to the front and rear of the sling as well. Some of these slings will also allow the firearm to be carried like a backpack with part of the sling over each shoulder.


On all of these slings there can be advantages and disadvantages depending on the type of firearm you are using, what the application is, and other equipment you might be wearing.

In all the categories I mentioned there are also multiple choices of slings to choose from, depending on your budget, taste and preference.



I've heard a lot of talk lately as well about how to use a sling safetly or properly and I've heard tons of opinions on what sling is the safest, or most effective, or best to use etc. etc.

Again it comes down to the sling, what you are doing, what firearm you have, what other gear you are using, if your running a pistol as well as other factors.

The safe use of sling/firearm while out moose hunting is different than a three gunner, a soldier and some one shooting targets at the range. All of these depend on basic firearm safety as well. Finger off the trigger and muzzle control are the two biggest ones that apply to everyone on this. The third of course is using your safety. If your rifle is loaded and rubbing against your gear or pack, the last thing your want is a fastex buckle to catch on the trigger with the safety off.


Another issue that I've heard a lot about lately concerning safety is the possibility of entaglement in the sling. I've never seen or ever heard of this happening, but you never know these days what people can do.

So on this issue, your firearm should never be dangling down to your knees, and if you have a sling that has multiple straps on it, get them secured. If your running a 1, 2 point adjustable or 3 point sling then the butt of the rifle should be up close to your shoulder. I'd say off hand, probably around 6 inches at the most.

Try to quite doing the "patrol carry" "Israeli carry", which is having the sling over your weak shoulder/ under your strong arm, and the butt of the rifle down by your hip with the rifle sideways on your body instead of vertical. This is not an efficient way to carry your firearm, nor do you have good muzzle control.


If you have any questions, post them here and I'll try to answer them.
 
Try to quite doing the "patrol carry" "Israeli carry", which is having the sling over your weak shoulder/ under your strong arm, and the butt of the rifle down by your hip with the rifle sideways on your body instead of vertical. This is not an efficient way to carry your firearm, nor do you have good muzzle control.

I prefer a two point to loop under the strong side. There is no chance the sling gets caught up between the butt and the shooter's shoulder when shouldering the rifle like when the sling is placed over the strong side shoulder.
 
Farmboy is correct, It isn't a guitar. A 2 point sling should ride OVER the firing shoulder and UNDER the offside. It allows for proper indexing of the stock and vertical drop during transitions. I know that everyone has their preferences, however, some are objectively right and wrong.

Beltfed: If it's getting in the way you should try mounting the sling outboard on your stock and inboard on the barrel, it will keep the sling away from your body.

Too many tactical shooters have no issues with buying a cool guy holster but neglect purchasing or configuring a rifle sling correctly. A sling is to a rifle just like a holster is to a handgun.
 
I just bought a Tavor, and am wondering about slings. I will be using it for our 3-gun shoots here, as well as open field and gravel pits. What kind of sling would you recommend for me Farmboy?

Is there a sling that would do a decent job for both, or would it be best to get a tac sling for 3-gun,and a partol-type sling for open field?

Or just go with the classic 2-point sling?
 
Pictures to demonstrate would be much appreciated.

K. See below.

Beltfed: If it's getting in the way you should try mounting the sling outboard on your stock and inboard on the barrel, it will keep the sling away from your body.

Bingo, it helps quite a bit.


I just bought a Tavor, and am wondering about slings. I will be using it for our 3-gun shoots here, as well as open field and gravel pits. What kind of sling would you recommend for me Farmboy?

I always recommend a Blue Force Gear Vickers (VCAS) sling for everything but again, it comes down to budget and personal preference.

Some guys are stuck on 1 and 3 points and there isn't anyway I'm able to change their minds.

Is there a sling that would do a decent job for both, or would it be best to get a tac sling for 3-gun,and a partol-type sling for open field?

Or just go with the classic 2-point sling?

If you're using a bolt action rifle and just want a carry strap, then the 2 point sling is usually the best way to go.

Personally I think 3 point/patrol slings are obsolete. The two point adjustable slings do a better job, provide the same features and don't have the extra strap that gets in the way or hung up on gear.

The one exception to this is where I mentioned the the kind of backpack sling, which I think is a great option for some types of hunting.


When considering slings as well, think about what the application is, consider warranty, price, sewing and also take a look at the material. For most slings they will at some point contact your neck, so something thin or a melted nylon on the sides, isn't that nice to have rubbing on your neck.

Also consider the hardware, if it has plastic buckles who are they made by? Quality or cheap? Take a look at the buckles as well and see if there is anything that might wear out.

On padded slings, make sure the padding is closed cell foam. Nothing worse than having your sling soak up water and then slinging it on your shoulder.

Single point sling.

The downside to the single points is once you let the rifle go, the muzzle is free to sling around, or stick into the ground if you take a knee. They are also prone to smacking you in the nuts or knees when moving.

The advantage in some cases is more freedom of movement of the rifle for shoulder transitions. These can also be achieved though quite easily with the 2 point adjustable slings and a bit of practice.


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Two Point sling

Your basic carry strap for hunting rifles.


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Two Point Adjustable sling

Shown is the BFG VCAS which gives you the ability to adjust the length of the sling extremely quick.

One disadvantage to these slings is they are meant to be mount on the sides of rifles, not the bottom or top where a large number of manufacturers still put their sling loops


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3 Point sling

Notice the extra strap running along side the rifle. This will hinder your ability to manipulate the bolt catch and will get hung up on any gear you have on the front of you.

These were extremely popular before the two point adjustable slings arrived on the market.


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I like the idea of the single point- but is it a viable (and practical option) for ARs?

Single point slings are still an option for AR's however I usually only advise using them on rifles with a 10" barrel or shorter.

With the shorter rifles there is less swinging of the muzzle, and it doesn't smack your nuts or knees.

If you have no problem holding onto your rifle most of the time while it's slung then there really isn't an issue with the single point.

If your LE or a medic or doing something where your hands need to be free some of the time, then the 2 point adjustable might be the better option to allow you to sling the rifle to the rear.

What about heavier firearms?

With heavier firearms, take a look into the padded slings if you're going to be carry the rifle for long periods of time.

If your slinging it for a section of a match, or wearing armour, then the padded might not be needed. Again it comes down to preference.
 
What is ideal for a full length AR? It has the A2 butt, and factory sling mounts.

A few of the 2 point adjustable slings will fit onto that rifle type. Most of these will have adaptors to allow them to fit onto the A2 buttstock and around the foregrip.

A few options include fixed buttstock adaptors, forearm adaptors and wire loops. These options can usually be found for most of slings, or made to work with most of the slings.

While not the perfect method, I still prefer going this route over the 3 point slings.

Most of the 3 point slings on the market are made to fit directly onto that rifle setup. However, you then have to deal with the extra strap. If the extra strap isn't a concern then this could be a good way to go.

A single point sling is also an option for this rifle set up using an aftermarket sling mount. I believe there are one or two that are made for the A2 stock.

You then get disadvantage of the swinging muzzle, but sometimes this is fine given the other options.
 
In my mind the single point sling is at its best when youre getting in and out of vehicles. Its not a primary weight carrier, and youre not cracking your knee with parts while you run. Its almost an enhanced lanyard actually.

I have a single point sling on my shotgun, and a 3 point-ish sling on my Tavor.

I have never considered carrying over the weak shoulder and under the firing arm as a legitimate option. Just not how slings work in my mind.

The other thing when discussing sling entanglement are breakaways. My three point has one built in that if you grab and pull hard against your usual movement you can break the sling in half. I think it's built more for someone who may need a medevac, which means the liklihood of me using mine is just about zilch. But who knows, maybe I'll find some other purpose for it yet.
 
I just bought a Tavor, and am wondering about slings. I will be using it for our 3-gun shoots here, as well as open field and gravel pits. What kind of sling would you recommend for me Farmboy?

Is there a sling that would do a decent job for both, or would it be best to get a tac sling for 3-gun,and a partol-type sling for open field?

Or just go with the classic 2-point sling?

For the Tavor, we have the issue of no standard rear sling mount. The front mount is in a great place however. I currently use paracord to make the rear mount,

Check for the thread on the Remington 870 sling adapter which appears to fit in the stock of the tavor quite nicely but I'm not a fan of QD sling swivels... Have a tendency to Quick Detech when they are not supposed to.

I'll keep digging and surfing for a better "screw in" rear mount. Hopefully Charles D. gets the Tar-21 running in the U.S. this year and then the accessories will explode.

Cheers
Tim
 
Farmboy is correct, It isn't a guitar. A 2 point sling should ride OVER the firing shoulder and UNDER the offside. It allows for proper indexing of the stock and vertical drop during transitions. I know that everyone has their preferences, however, some are objectively right and wrong.

Beltfed: If it's getting in the way you should try mounting the sling outboard on your stock and inboard on the barrel, it will keep the sling away from your body.

Too many tactical shooters have no issues with buying a cool guy holster but neglect purchasing or configuring a rifle sling correctly. A sling is to a rifle just like a holster is to a handgun.

Excellent points! I just recently had to switch my sling to the outboard side of my stock because the attachment buckle was getting under the butt pad when I was shouldering while wearing a chest rig or plate carrier. Mounting the attachment to the outside worked.

I prefer two point slings with a mount on the stock and usually a mount about mid point on the forward rail. It seems to give me a it more control of the muzzle when slung. I also have a set qucik detach socket or loop at the rear of the receiver so that I can adjust the sling and configure it closely akin to a sinlge point. I'm not a big fan of the single point because of the slop when it hangs and I consider a single point to be nothing but a retention device.

I do have a transition video where I explian sling use a bit but Darren has worked with and knows his slings too!
 
In my limited shooting experience, a sling should be the first and only piece of accessory kit that you buy, once you've purchased your rifle. Practice using the sling type that you are choosing for work, or competition is going to be the best time you can spend next to shooting. QOR is right, a sling is as important to a rifle shooter as a holster is to a pistol shooter. Try out a few different configurations and see what is going to work best for your rifle, shooting style or application. Having a sling that only works when your standing still on the range, but is not going to allow you to do a proper shoulder transition during a match, is not working.

Just my $0.02.
 
Also, the two point sling is a great aid in making longer distance shots. Using it by passing the weak hand through the sling and rifle and then bringing the weak hand over the sling and gripping the fore end (can't remember what this technique is called). It makes for an effective platform from which long distance off hand shots are much easier. I feel like the single point sling has its place for the quick transition to a secondary weapon.
 
Blondie - I think it's called the Hasti sling method and works best when the front sling mount is under the rifle IMO. I use it a lot on my hunting rifles and even helps in standing off hand.

I would think it would still work with a side mount position on front swivel be could induce some canting pressure.
 
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