Using Chokes on a short barreled defense type shotgun? Worth it or a waste?

For self defence at self defence distance, then no. For anything else, yes.

Yep! I use several Ithaca M37s to hunt with, when I'm not using the 20 bore SKB O/U.

Using a 20" riot gun I just clipped a snowshoehare at 35 yards. Thankfully one BB bounced from the frozen ground through his foreleg and into the chest. Not ideal but it worked just barely. And a week prior to that this same shotgun just woke up a grouse at 33 yards and #6 shot. Nothing with this cylinder choke. But this thing is wonderful with buckshot.

And the Turkeyslayer with the Caption extra full choke and a 23" barrel literally turns off the living switch of bunnies at 55 yards with cheap number 4 shot.

Edit: I've pulled off some pretty weird things in the past with a Camper's Model 24C and a 10 gauge replica flintlock blunderbuss with true cylinder bores. But they are each singular and helped along by the greatest amount of lead shot I could safely feed them. Not something to bank on or use as an example for novice hunters. (read lucky!)
 
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Stay away from any kind of brake, the Dlask barrel I bought came with one similar to the one you posted.
What a piece of bull F%^#. It will tear the #### out of your cases/bags, doesn't do anything to reduce recoil. I was so happy when my set of choke tubes came in, so I could get that pita off ASAP.

I have a brake on my Mossberg Roadblocker which makes birdshot & 00Buck's recoil feel almost the same, so that one works. From the size and shape, I'm sure the Fabarm one pictured is more for looks than anything else. I'll buy the chokes but haven't made up my mind on the brake yet...

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You speak the truth on that one. I ran out of shells in a stage last week , trying to put down one stubborn plate. Using a 590 and # 8 challanger shells. I was using a friends gun and I really liked it, but I can't help and wonder what it would cost to get one tapped for chokes. Anybody got an idea on the avg price for that kind of job?
I've heard quotes of between $80- $120.

I have a modified choke 14" shotgun and an xtra full threaded choke on my 18.5".
Makes all this difference in the world with birdshot. Which is probably 80% of the rounds I, and most other shooters shoot.
 
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I had my 14" HP9-1 thread for Winchokes. I use the Modified and also have a cylinder. OO buck spreads about an inch per yard.

So your typical man-sized paper target would get a full spread up to about 15-20 yards or so with a well placed shot with 00 buck? More than that and you would start loosing pellets. What would be the spread in the same 14" cylinder barrel for bird shot?

Something I have always wondered is does shotgun barrel lengths make a difference for how much energy the pellets hit with at a certain distance? Is it purely how many pellets you hit with, or do you also loose energy faster because of the shorter barrel? For example, would a 14" barrel give less than a telling hit at say 40 yards than a 24" barrel just because you would lose pellets, or does the longer barrel also give the shot more velocity ? What would be considered a maximum useful range for a 14" shotgun cylinder barrel?
 
So your typical man-sized paper target would get a full spread up to about 15-20 yards or so with a well placed shot with 00 buck? More than that and you would start loosing pellets. What would be the spread in the same 14" cylinder barrel for bird shot?

Something I have always wondered is does shotgun barrel lengths make a difference for how much energy the pellets hit with at a certain distance? Is it purely how many pellets you hit with, or do you also loose energy faster because of the shorter barrel? For example, would a 14" barrel give less than a telling hit at say 40 yards than a 24" barrel just because you would lose pellets, or does the longer barrel also give the shot more velocity ? What would be considered a maximum useful range for a 14" shotgun cylinder barrel?

The inch width of pattern spread per yard of range is a generality, and pattern spread is different from gun to gun and load to load, but as a rule of thumb its as good as any other. The larger the pellets usually the tighter the gun patterns, but if one was to compare a skeet load to a 15 pellet 3" 00 load, it might not stand up. Your gun with ammo A might pattern a doughnut pattern at 15 yards, but with ammo B produces a dense pattern at 20 yards. Change your choke, and the reverse might occur.

The difference in velocity per inch change in barrel length is measurable, but not as extreme as say a high velocity small bore rifle; a comparison of the respective powder charges and bore volumes (bore capacity) provides the reason.

As pellets give up velocity, they loose their ability to penetrate. A pellet doesn't destroy tissue it can't reach. You can think of this in terms of energy, but a shotgun pellet's effectiveness isn't like that of a rifle bullet, the severity of the wound is determined by the number of pellets on target, the pattern spread, and their depth of penetration. When multiple pellets hit a live target, tissue is displaced and destroyed by multiple projectiles impacting and overlapping across a comparatively wide area, not by energy of an individual pellet. A palm sized wound from a shotgun blast settles matters quickly, but as pattern spread increases and penetration decreases, the effectiveness of the hit diminishes.





The maximum range of a 14" cylinder bore shotgun depends on the size of the target and the ammunition it's fed. To keep a full load of 00 pellets on a human silhouette, facing head on the maximum range is perhaps 10 yards, but should your target turn sideways, the range is effectively cut in half. Do all your pellets need to hit the target? Only circumstances dictate that. But if maximum range is defined by 80% patterns within a 30" circle, that's another matter entirely. You've got the gun, so pick up a variety of shells from various manufactures, and a stack of cardboard, and get out and see what happens when shooting at various ranges with each load from your particular gun. A close range, remember that the big hole is the wad.
 
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To add to what boomer said:

- heavy buckshot like 00 doesn't react to chokes like smaller bird shot does. Under some circumstances (depending on the gun, barrel, and shell), buck shot patterns can actually get larger when using a tighter choke. As a general rule, use cylinder up to modified chokes, not tighter. Also, due to the low number of pellets there is a lot of randomness involved. When patterning buckshot, take several shots with each choke and average it.

- To get maximum range out of buckshot, buy "federal flite control 00-buck". It has a different style of wadding that stays together longer after leaving the barrel, which tightens the pattern more than any choke ever could.
 
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