USPSA In Ontario

Targets are just targets. If you listed to some of US GMs they prefer the IPSC ones, because they present a bigger challenge.


This is true. Ben Stoeger has stated he finds IPSC more difficult than USPSA overall. It would be fun to have a Texas Star in IPSC though but that isn't enough for me to leave IPSC and start a USPSA club.
 
Max Michel is another US-Resident / World Champion that says that IPSC is more difficult than USPSA.
At least that's what he told me on my class with him.
 
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It MAY be more difficult, but USPSA is WAY more fun and far more relevant to practical shooting. IPSC might just as well be shooting at pie plates!
When was the last time that you shot an IPSC match and when was the last time that you shot a USPSA match, Bryan?

A link to a result would be helpful...

FWIW, my last USPSA match was in February and my most recent IPSC was Sunday.
https://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-display-match-results-detail.php?indx=16729&division=Single%20Stack&guntype=Pistol
https://practiscore.com/results/18523?q_class=0&q_category=0&q_division=0
 
Our Regional Director, Sean, has to sign off on it and then you submit to USPSA.
So let me get this straight. If a club wants to shoot USPSA instead of IPSC they need to get Sean's permission first? I agree that if you want to shoot IPSC matches you have to have a BB and join your section but why would a club needs IPSC's permission to start USPSA? What about other practical shooting sports, IDPA, ODPL, etc?
 
When was the last time that you shot an IPSC match and when was the last time that you shot a USPSA match, Bryan?

A link to a result would be helpful...

FWIW, my last USPSA match was in February and my most recent IPSC was Sunday.
https://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-display-match-results-detail.php?indx=16729&division=Single%20Stack&guntype=Pistol
https://practiscore.com/results/18523?q_class=0&q_category=0&q_division=0

It sounds you are a shooter with vast experience?
 
So let me get this straight. If a club wants to shoot USPSA instead of IPSC they need to get Sean's permission first? I agree that if you want to shoot IPSC matches you have to have a BB and join your section but why would a club needs IPSC's permission to start USPSA? What about other practical shooting sports, IDPA, ODPL, etc?

Other shooting sports do not need Sean's or ipsc permission in any way shape or form
 
USPSA is the regional affiliate of IPSC for the US. While it runs by a slightly different rule book it is another region of IPSC like IPSC Canada. The director I spoke to specifically said they do not want to be in competition with another regions own affiliate. When you get the package from USPSA there is a spot on the application for the RD to sign that he agrees.
IDPA, odpl, CDP are not IPSC, USPSA is.
 
It MAY be more difficult, but USPSA is WAY more fun and far more relevant to practical shooting. IPSC might just as well be shooting at pie plates!

You mean it's kind of more like real life? Haha, that's awesome!

For anybody who hasn't shot both, if you shot one, you shot both. Targets can be slightly different and there are a few small rule differences. I would say what makes IPSC a bit harder is that it's usually a bit more athletic than USPSA. The A zone on the targets are a bit smaller in IPSC but that doesn't make them easier when they're covered with no-shoots or on a swinger.

I think the advantage of having USPSA matches in Canada is that there will be more matches. I would also support USPSA organizers who require a black badge or similar course to compete. There is no harm in getting basic training before you shoot matches.
 
You mean it's kind of more like real life? Haha, that's awesome!

For anybody who hasn't shot both, if you shot one, you shot both. Targets can be slightly different and there are a few small rule differences. I would say what makes IPSC a bit harder is that it's usually a bit more athletic than USPSA. The A zone on the targets are a bit smaller in IPSC but that doesn't make them easier when they're covered with no-shoots or on a swinger.

I think the advantage of having USPSA matches in Canada is that there will be more matches. I would also support USPSA organizers who require a black badge or similar course to compete. There is no harm in getting basic training before you shoot matches.

Outstanding post! From the REAL Canadian Nationals Champion from 1986 in Vancouver.
 
You realize that's our Regional Director right? He has a huge amount of experience shooting in Canada, the US and around the world.

I merely stated my preference, my opinion. My main beef with IPSC are the moronic targets and lack of any realistic scenarios.
USPSA and IDPA are far more enjoyable in those regards. IMHO
 
I think the advantage of having USPSA matches in Canada is that there will be more matches. I would also support USPSA organizers who require a black badge or similar course to compete. There is no harm in getting basic training before you shoot matches.

I disagree. You are using the same base of people to run matches at the same clubs.

I believe you would tend to get a similar overall number of matches , just less IPSC.
 
You mean it's kind of more like real life? Haha, that's awesome!

For anybody who hasn't shot both, if you shot one, you shot both. Targets can be slightly different and there are a few small rule differences. I would say what makes IPSC a bit harder is that it's usually a bit more athletic than USPSA. The A zone on the targets are a bit smaller in IPSC but that doesn't make them easier when they're covered with no-shoots or on a swinger.

I think the advantage of having USPSA matches in Canada is that there will be more matches. I would also support USPSA organizers who require a black badge or similar course to compete. There is no harm in getting basic training before you shoot matches.

I believe ALL holster disciplines in Canada should require a BB. Make that the gold standard in basic training.
 
Thanks Opcx6, I'm very fortunate to have been shooting so long!

I do like the USPSA rule book better but really don't see any difference in the stages. I think stages will vary more in different locations and between different match directors rather than which shooting organization it is.
 
I merely stated my preference, my opinion. My main beef with IPSC are the moronic targets and lack of any realistic scenarios.
USPSA and IDPA are far more enjoyable in those regards. IMHO

Ok, so I'll take it your lack of response as to when you've been involved to be what I thought - decades ago; and you're obviously a legend in the shooting community.
(or at least in your own mind) I bow to how good you once shot.

But - you've proven to be what I thought you were - a grumpy-old-curmudgeon-keyboard-commando who is speaking out of ignorance.
You have no knowledge whatsoever of today's IPSC or today's USPSA matches.
One is as much fun as the other, and like Ken says - there's no difference other than our brothers to the south using a different target most of the time.

Live in the past & dream of how good you once were, grandpa.
The rest of us will be at the ranges having fun shooting both USPSA and IPSC.

Oh, and welcome to my ignore list...
 
I do like the USPSA rule book better but really don't see any difference in the stages. I think stages will vary more in different locations and between different match directors rather than which shooting organization it is.
Exactly
 
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