Well, the UTS-15 does more damage than the 870 in Battlefield 4. That's the selling point for me.
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Utas-15 road show
- Thread starter Mr Wolverine
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P0WERWAGON
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- burnaby BC كافر
well i got the Utas a couple weeks ago. my 10 year old son looked at it a said, cool the gun from GTA5! sure looks cool. lighter than it looks but i doubt i would comfortable for a long day in the bush. i dont know if the sights are OEM, but the fact the last guy left the rear sight on the small hole made me smile.
i took it to a CQB match. but it was late, getting dark and i could not feel my fingers so after a few guys looked it over, i just packed it up and took it home. planned on taking it yesterday, but life got in the way. so before i send it off i figured i'd play with it some and see how it feels loaded.
i reached into my grab bag of misc shells. all 2 3/4, bird, slug, 00, whatever else was in there. loaded up the mag tubes. the left side took all 7 and the right only took 6??. figured that they may be dirty/damaged/odd ball. whatever. tried to cycle. now this thing you need to man handle. cant be afraid to work it. gotta almost be angry when you cycle it LOL. got through most and with 3 left in the tube, this happened.
well it is just junk ammo.
more junk ammo.
last round of junk ammo from that tube. on to next side.
Hmmmmm. i think i've seen this before.....
i think i'll reload the magazines and try it again. operator error. i havent actually used any of my shotguns in a few months. went to load it up..
strange, mag only takes 5 now. gets very crunchy sounding if i try for #6
well i suck at this. picked out that round and tried with normal effort. got it to chamber, cycled two rounds then this
well i have learn that when you play with junk ammo you get junk results. i cracked open my fresh from the ammo can, federal 00 and slugs. loaded up the gun. this time only 5 could fit in each side. now i know it is not ammo. maybe me?? tried to chamber the first round/. racked it back with manly force,
after i cleared the gun, tried to load it up one more time. same but now the follower on the right side stayed up at the #6 shell position. had to pick it with a small tool to get it to go back down.
well i had fun i guess, thanks for the time i got to play with the gun Wolverine, sorry i couldnt get to shoot it. maybe it needs the rounds to be fired in order to cycle?? i got the address of the next guy, so hopefully he isnt as inept as me and will get a chance to actually use it for something other than a cool conversation piece.
stay tuned, for the next episode live from Yellowknife
i took it to a CQB match. but it was late, getting dark and i could not feel my fingers so after a few guys looked it over, i just packed it up and took it home. planned on taking it yesterday, but life got in the way. so before i send it off i figured i'd play with it some and see how it feels loaded.
i reached into my grab bag of misc shells. all 2 3/4, bird, slug, 00, whatever else was in there. loaded up the mag tubes. the left side took all 7 and the right only took 6??. figured that they may be dirty/damaged/odd ball. whatever. tried to cycle. now this thing you need to man handle. cant be afraid to work it. gotta almost be angry when you cycle it LOL. got through most and with 3 left in the tube, this happened.
well it is just junk ammo.
more junk ammo.
last round of junk ammo from that tube. on to next side.
Hmmmmm. i think i've seen this before.....
i think i'll reload the magazines and try it again. operator error. i havent actually used any of my shotguns in a few months. went to load it up..
strange, mag only takes 5 now. gets very crunchy sounding if i try for #6
well i suck at this. picked out that round and tried with normal effort. got it to chamber, cycled two rounds then this
well i have learn that when you play with junk ammo you get junk results. i cracked open my fresh from the ammo can, federal 00 and slugs. loaded up the gun. this time only 5 could fit in each side. now i know it is not ammo. maybe me?? tried to chamber the first round/. racked it back with manly force,
after i cleared the gun, tried to load it up one more time. same but now the follower on the right side stayed up at the #6 shell position. had to pick it with a small tool to get it to go back down.
well i had fun i guess, thanks for the time i got to play with the gun Wolverine, sorry i couldnt get to shoot it. maybe it needs the rounds to be fired in order to cycle?? i got the address of the next guy, so hopefully he isnt as inept as me and will get a chance to actually use it for something other than a cool conversation piece.
stay tuned, for the next episode live from Yellowknife
Grumpy Wolverine
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Did you make sure that the barrel nut was a tight as you can possibly fasten it down? That is needed to make sure the monoblock and barrel are seated in the exact position. In regards to the follower, did you spray any lubricant on the follower? The gun is supposed to be fully cleaned and lubricated by each user before it goes out so I was wondering if that might not have happened before you got it? Slow racking and short stroking will also cause what is being seen in the pictures.
Grumpy Wolverine
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Also we have asked that when a tester gets the shotgun he gives a review of what shape the shotgun was received in, so we can tell whether it is being serviced as was part of the agreement when the shotgun is sent to someone. A little shot of WD-40 or gun oil in the slots on the mag tube does wonders for these shotguns. Like any shotgun, a little grime in the tube will cause the follower to stick.
P0WERWAGON
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- burnaby BC كافر
barrel is as tight as i could get it without using tools. i assume you dont want me to do that anyways. magazine tubes and plunger were dry as a skeleton fart. i lubed the magazine tubes, sprayed some lube on the bolt. that wasnt as dry. the plungers are nice and smooth and quiet now.upon closer inspection, it looks like the spring is binding and wont compress evenly. hard to see in this pic, but is bent all over the tube when it gets to this compressed state.
the left side is smooth now, but the right side is still stuck at 5 rounds because of the spring.
i blew some crud out of the barrel lugs. it looks to me the reason why the bolt is difficult to close softly, because the extractor is sticking out too far. kinda binding. i pulled back the bolt and checked with a cartridge under the extractor. VERY loose. the shell can move all over.
doesnt seem to even want to try and grip it. doesnt look bent or damaged, the spring is pushing it out all the way to the end of its travel. which leads me to thought number 2 on why so many double feeds. with the shell so loose on the bolt carrier, the ejector looks like a small afterthought.
it is only 5mm long, so only the last 5mm of the stroke does the shell casing even start to be pushed out. and with the extractor so loose, i can see why quick cycling would catch the spent shell and cause a double feed. my thoughts are if the ejector was at least 10mm long, the shell would have more time to move out of the chamber area, and possibly out of the gun, before the next shell is readied and chambering starts. is this how long the new ones are?
as a quick try, if i #### the gun to the right, have gravity do some work, it cycles 100%
the left side is smooth now, but the right side is still stuck at 5 rounds because of the spring.
i blew some crud out of the barrel lugs. it looks to me the reason why the bolt is difficult to close softly, because the extractor is sticking out too far. kinda binding. i pulled back the bolt and checked with a cartridge under the extractor. VERY loose. the shell can move all over.
doesnt seem to even want to try and grip it. doesnt look bent or damaged, the spring is pushing it out all the way to the end of its travel. which leads me to thought number 2 on why so many double feeds. with the shell so loose on the bolt carrier, the ejector looks like a small afterthought.
it is only 5mm long, so only the last 5mm of the stroke does the shell casing even start to be pushed out. and with the extractor so loose, i can see why quick cycling would catch the spent shell and cause a double feed. my thoughts are if the ejector was at least 10mm long, the shell would have more time to move out of the chamber area, and possibly out of the gun, before the next shell is readied and chambering starts. is this how long the new ones are?
as a quick try, if i #### the gun to the right, have gravity do some work, it cycles 100%
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Grumpy Wolverine
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Thanks for the great pictures. With most shotguns you will find there is a lot of "slop" in the extractor as shotgun case heads and rim thickness actually vary quite a lot. I know that my own personal shotguns have a fair amount of slop on the extractors as well, and I own various makes.
From looking at the spring in the picture I have a pretty good idea what has happened. It looks like the gun may be been disassembled by a tester and when putting the endcap back on the shotgun the spring on that side was not fitted over the post, causing the spring to sit improperly and be longer than it should be.
Thanks for lubricating that gun, it should be being done each and every time by the new testers.
From looking at the spring in the picture I have a pretty good idea what has happened. It looks like the gun may be been disassembled by a tester and when putting the endcap back on the shotgun the spring on that side was not fitted over the post, causing the spring to sit improperly and be longer than it should be.
Thanks for lubricating that gun, it should be being done each and every time by the new testers.
P0WERWAGON
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- burnaby BC كافر
well i guess it acts like a rimfire when cycling unfired ammo. on the way to the post office, i fired off 225 rounds. some were even slightly damaged plastic hulls. probably 9 different type of shells/loads.
not a single jam, FTF, FTE. all went fine. the only "issue" i have is the LOP is slighly too short for me, and the grip doesnt feel right. grip looks lik an AR15 grip, so i imagine it would be an easy swap.
thanks for the chance to play with it. now what about help cleaning up?...........
not a single jam, FTF, FTE. all went fine. the only "issue" i have is the LOP is slighly too short for me, and the grip doesnt feel right. grip looks lik an AR15 grip, so i imagine it would be an easy swap.
thanks for the chance to play with it. now what about help cleaning up?...........
i notice you have the tactical choke on the end of the barrel extension. For some reason, with the UTS-15 I bought from Wolverine back in May, the tactical choke won't thread onto the barrel extension. It's like the thread type doesn't match. Oddly enough, they both thread onto the gun just fine.
Wromgway
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- Saskatoon, SK
I have just recently picked up a used UTS-15 of my own, and Wolverine is at this moment replacing a few of the original parts with more updated ones from UTAS. Which, by the way, is very cool. Wolverine has a new loyal customer. I'm planning on torture testing my own, and I'll add those results here when I get it back and roll around in the sand with it for a few days.
The design on these pumps packs two operations into the backstroke. The timing is critical; it completes the ejection just a few millimetres before the shell carrier forces a new shell down, right where the fired hull just was. That's why short-stroking them can bind it up. Just keep the pump operation firm and constant, and it runs fine.
For me, a taller guy with a long neck, I am mounting my optics on an old A2 carry handle. I need the extra height, with the shape of the bullpup stock. There are also picatinny risers that you can use if you only want a little extra height.
POWERWAGON, I agree with you about the extractor and ejector, except for one detail... If the ejector was as far forward as you suggest, it could limit the ability to eject 3" hulls.
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The design on these pumps packs two operations into the backstroke. The timing is critical; it completes the ejection just a few millimetres before the shell carrier forces a new shell down, right where the fired hull just was. That's why short-stroking them can bind it up. Just keep the pump operation firm and constant, and it runs fine.
For me, a taller guy with a long neck, I am mounting my optics on an old A2 carry handle. I need the extra height, with the shape of the bullpup stock. There are also picatinny risers that you can use if you only want a little extra height.
POWERWAGON, I agree with you about the extractor and ejector, except for one detail... If the ejector was as far forward as you suggest, it could limit the ability to eject 3" hulls.
- Wrongway
Grumpy Wolverine
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I'll be getting that one back out to you very shortly. I want to make sure you have had a chance to break it in before gopher season
audet548
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- Bagotville
Any plans on sending it in Quebec?
chevy_boy
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- Victoria BC
I would love to participate in this.
Cavs42
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- Back to the Motherland, NS!
I'm happy to report that I picked the UTS up this morning, and while I haven't had too much time to play (cursed work...) she looks to be in great condition. I will be headed to the Yellowknife Shooting Club at 1300 hrs this Saturday to give her a run for her money. The weather forcast is for a high of -24 before the wind, so that should give the polymer a work out.
I am impressed with the build quality, and I like the look of the mag tubes now that they're closed on the 2nd generation. Photos and video to follow shortly.
Anyone in the YK area who wants to come out and play, please send me a PM. I will be bringing a minimum of 200 rnds of assorted buck, bird and slug, but if you want to try something specific, bring it out. Likewise with targets. I will have a variety, but bring others if the mood strikes.
I am impressed with the build quality, and I like the look of the mag tubes now that they're closed on the 2nd generation. Photos and video to follow shortly.
Anyone in the YK area who wants to come out and play, please send me a PM. I will be bringing a minimum of 200 rnds of assorted buck, bird and slug, but if you want to try something specific, bring it out. Likewise with targets. I will have a variety, but bring others if the mood strikes.
Cavs42
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- Back to the Motherland, NS!
If anyone is interested in coming out, I am postponing the shoot until next weekend as I have discovered some damage to the shotgun.
It appears that someone disassembled the gun past the "field strip" stage, despite warnings in the manual. It appears that they then tried to force one of the followers back into the gun incorrectly and broke it. As such, I am waiting on a new follower and a new mag spring (also damaged) to be couriered to me from Wolverine.
It appears that someone disassembled the gun past the "field strip" stage, despite warnings in the manual. It appears that they then tried to force one of the followers back into the gun incorrectly and broke it. As such, I am waiting on a new follower and a new mag spring (also damaged) to be couriered to me from Wolverine.
Grumpy Wolverine
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The parts are in the mail, heading your way.
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Send an email to sales@wolverinesupplies.com Attention Grumpy with your serial number etc in it and I can tell you if you shotgun has been done or what needs to be done to it.
Hunter709
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- Newfoundland & Labrador
Hey Grumpy, when will I know if I've been accepted to test it? Just curious 
Cheers,
Mitch
Cheers,
Mitch
horkz
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- NW Ontario
Im truly impressed with this effort to promote the UTAS. Ive seen the negative vids/reviews etc... Wolverines efforts and the reviews Ive been reading on this post is changing my mind about the UTAS. I like the marine version myself. So new snowblower or shotty...
