Valmet : Where in God's name are they all hiding

They do know how many are in Canada, simply as DFAIT or import Canada. They will have exact numbers. But the rub is who owns them and where they are. I have a feeling the OIC will be a failure just like in NZ. NZ admitted that they’ve only recovered approximately 20% of the banned weapons, they know in some cases who owns certain firearms. But there was a vast majority of firearms they don’t know who owns. Even the govt of NZ website reflects this, they show imported numbers vs turned in numbers. Canada will have exactly the same issues as well, Firearms owners feel betrayed. Then take into account a vast majority of crimes committed are done with illegal pistols or non-restricted hunting weapons. Thus the recently prohibited weapons won’t have any real affect towards the associated firearms deaths.

Before we go off on a tangent like all other CGN threads LOL. Why can’t newly manufactured Valmet be manufactured? Is it a money issue, patent related issue or? As I would love to buy a non-restricted Valmet in 7.62x39. The Inuit-Metis in me wants one, both as a cultural and democratic issue. I think it would also drive the liberals crazy as they can’t say anything about an aboriginal owning a firearm. Historically aboriginals owned weapons as it had the capability to provide food and self protection. Section 35 of the Canadian Constitution removed this right from aboriginals
 
R711 said:
They do know how many are in Canada, simply as DFAIT or import Canada. They will have exact numbers. But the rub is who owns them and where they are. I have a feeling the OIC will be a failure just like in NZ. NZ admitted that they’ve only recovered approximately 20% of the banned weapons, they know in some cases who owns certain firearms. But there was a vast majority of firearms they don’t know who owns. Even the govt of NZ website reflects this, they show imported numbers vs turned in numbers. Canada will have exactly the same issues as well, Firearms owners feel betrayed. Then take into account a vast majority of crimes committed are done with illegal pistols or non-restricted hunting weapons. Thus the recently prohibited weapons won’t have any real affect towards the associated firearms deaths.

Before we go off on a tangent like all other CGN threads LOL. Why can’t newly manufactured Valmet be manufactured? Is it a money issue, patent related issue or? As I would love to buy a non-restricted Valmet in 7.62x39. The Inuit-Metis in me wants one, both as a cultural and democratic issue. I think it would also drive the liberals crazy as they can’t say anything about an aboriginal owning a firearm. Historically aboriginals owned weapons as it had the capability to provide food and self protection. Section 35 of the Canadian Constitution removed this right from aboriginals
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Both. The Valmet brand is owned by I want to say Beretta? who has stated they have no interest in selling it or allowing manufacturing under it. It has been tried.

If you managed to overcome that, money is also an issue - you would have to invest in a manufacturing facility in Finland to at least make receivers and then finish assembly in Canada with (e.g.) chinese components... only to have it all banned at a stroke of a pen...

You _can_ buy them as is. Just need enough money.
 
R711 said:
I didn’t realize Sako took over Valmet rifle production and they make a semi-only RK95
https://youtu.be/s5bFJ2bIiJg
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It would be great to be able to get an RK92, but they're prohib. The M78 and the Hunter are named as not prohibited, and are the only Valmet AK's that are legal - as I'm sure you know. Hence the cost, and the stratospheric value of guns like the OP's (which if he'd ever sell, I'd be interested in). If you can find an M78 in the US, it is legal to import - but there aren't that many there either and the price reflects the rarity. Probably the only gun that I really wanted, but never got (other than 12.2's) is an R4. If I had bought the Galil I was looking at in the late '80's I could have made an R4 clone out of it. Stupid me bought an AUG instead, instantly hated the trigger, and sold it. To be fair, that's only happened to me twice - the other was the HK45 pistol, something about the feel of Polymer under stress bothers me, and both the HK45 pistol and the AUG have that feeling.
 
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A little Valmet M78 p0rn. Not sure about you guys, but for me, nothing beats roaming around Canada's wilderness with a non-restricted AK style 7.62x39. Especially these days. Value is on the individual. I wouldn't hate on the rifle. It's as good as they come and accurate too!

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katazone said:
A little Valmet M78 p0rn. Not sure about you guys, but form me nothing beats roaming around Canada's wilderness with a non-restricted AK style 7.62x39. Especially these days. Value is on the individual. I wouldn't hate on the rifle. It's as good as they come and accurate too!

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I hate you :'(
 
katazone said:
A little Valmet M78 p0rn. Not sure about you guys, but form me nothing beats roaming around Canada's wilderness with a non-restricted AK style 7.62x39. Especially these days. Value is on the individual. I wouldn't hate on the rifle. It's as good as they come and accurate too!

VH5xhHK.png

ONCUGpZ.png

SoPb5cn.png

UPxhiMG.png

tF6aozR.png
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Ceiferiro said:
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Lets see if this works, I've dubbed this "The Valmutt"
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that is so great to see those in actions ... i can see your smile in the bush using them. a little like the t81 ...
 
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