Value of Inglis Hi Power with history

maple_leaf_eh said:
Rad is indeed a symbol of the growth of the RCAC. He was an anglo born in Gaspe, who led (not joined or served with) the 27th Armoured Sherbrooke Fusiler Regt. They were an officially bilingual regiment, long before official biligualism became the fashion.

I forget which brigade they were, but they landed late on DDay. He worn a DSO (IIRC), and his contribution to crew competance was to post replacements into his Sqn HQ Tp. He'd leave the admin to the staff, and drill the new crews before moving them into the rest of the sqn. He'd go out and have range days shooting up wrecks behind the lines, giving the men a chance to see and feel battle beforehand. He was CO too.

His legacy is Tank Bomb on the parade square in Sherbrooke, Quebec. She served from DDay to VEDay without getting knocked out. No other Allied tank has that distinction. To learn more, google Tank Bomb and see what comes back.

Any Rad souvenir has a depth beyond the fact it is an Inglis.
I recall sometime back that Rad Walters was the highest scoring tanker in the Canadian Army in ww2, something like 25 German tanks knocked out, considering that the Gremans had better tanks than our guys, this is quite a feat :lol:
 
Today Major Mike brought over his new prized possession. It is BGen Radley Walters Englis Mark 1 Browning Hi-Power 9mm.

It is in excellent condition... I'll let the pictures speak:

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I live in Sherbrooke and I can see the Bomb from my front porch. Are those original photos of Sherbrooke Fusilier's tanks, not many photos of those around. I own three uniforms of the Sherbrookes in my collection.
 
JP Not sure whose tanks are shown in the picture....the caption under the photo reads as follows The armour reaches the outskirts of Groningen, April 1945 Mike
 
Value of Inglis Hi Power with history?
So did we ever determine a market value for such an impressive piece? The history is, of course, impossible to price - but the gun itself :?:
 
A regular Inglis in this kind of condition appears to be going for something in the area of $700.00 to $800.00 without accessories or history of any kind other than the fact that they are Inglis or WW2 production. Mike
 
Really, it belongs in a Museum, a Canadian Museum-even if on loan. Should never be sold like a Victoria Cross to a foreign high bidder with deep pockets and a greedy seller. :|
 
No, it sure souldn't go to a museum on loan as Mike would probably never see it again unless he paid admission.

Chances are that they would see it as only "another IHP" anyway.
 
recce said:
No, it sure souldn't go to a museum on loan as Mike would probably never see it again unless he paid admission.

Chances are that they would see it as only "another IHP" anyway.

Well, why don't you pay his admission for life and go tell the the museum what it is! :D
 
Lets get something straight right now people. "IF" I should ever let this pistol go it will most assuredly GO either to a museum right here in CANADA or else to another CANADIAN collector(hopefully with a military background) period ! End of story. Mike
 
Major Mike said:
Lets get something straight right now people. "IF" I should ever let this pistol go it will most assuredly GO either to a museum right here in CANADA or else to another CANADIAN collector(hopefully with a military background) period ! End of story. Mike

Proper thing too, Mike. But as admirable as your ultimate aims may be, don't let that dissuade you from attempting to determine the transferable value of what you have. There are plenty of folks who share your sentiments regarding the ultimate resting place of that particular pistol, but who would also pay dearly for the distinction of owning it beforehand.

Unlike a bunch of other firearms, that Inglis BHP is still fully-transferable. And as such, it will only continue to accrue value. Museums be damned for the time being. You own a living piece of history. My (worthless) advice is to hang on to it and let the value rise. Heck - if I owned it I would shoot it just to add my name to the ledger. But that's just me.

Either way, you own a serious piece of Canadian military history in that service pistol. Knowing that, what you choose to do with it is entirely your choice. Just don't sell it cheap. If you decide to donate it to a museum then fine. Just understand that most (including the National War Museum) already have more than they can use. If you want it in a museum, then you need to contact Radley Walters' parent regiment.

Otherwise, sell it to a suitably appreciable collector. A plain jane Inglis HP sells for $500 to $600 these days. Your BHP with its lineage should sell for considerably more. How much more? I can't say. That is for the experts to determine. And those experts reside here on CGN. Be advised that just about any established dealer will soak you, and that is no lie. Take what Clive Law has to say for the gospel of Inglis Hi-Powers.

If you don't run into Clive here, then shoot him an e-mail. He is the man. You can reach him at: clive@servicepub.com

FWIW,

Mark C
 
Not to denigrate the condition of Major Mike's pistol, nor its documented connection to a prominant Canadian Military officer, but in discussions of value and historical significance the fact should not be lost sight of that, as mentioned at the outset, this was not General Walters' personal sidearm during the war or at any other time during his military career - rather it was apparently given to him upon his retirement. (As borne out by the 1993 issue date of the old "green slip" registration certificate.)
 
I was kinda thinking the same thing about the green slip. It also says obtained from "Jack Holbrook" like GrantR said in 1993.

So I guess the thing that I am wondering, was this firearm a service issue/used firearm, or simply a firearm at one time owned by RW??? Was is a presentation gift??

Please don't take my thoughts as belittling or degrading the firearm or it's historical impact, just my thoughts/questions as a fellow collector always looking at as much as I can.
 
GrantR and Koldt have both raised some valid questions that will only get answered through some research ! I will have to talk to Grant (Rads son) and see if he can shed some light on them or point me towards someone who would know like Mr Holbrook for instance. I will post the answers as soon as I get some. Mike
 
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