Value of pre 64 88 in .284
- Thread starter Huntsman
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CGN Regular
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- Manitoulin Island, Ontario
The dentation behind the front swivel is the screw that holds the stock to the barrel. If we are talking about the same mark.
I would think by looking at the pics it would be worth right around the $1000.00 mark. If it where chambered for 358win then it would be closer to the $1500.00 you mentioned.
I would think by looking at the pics it would be worth right around the $1000.00 mark. If it where chambered for 358win then it would be closer to the $1500.00 you mentioned.
The variable scopes, includyding Refield, back in the pre 64 era, had a different magnification set up. The cross hairs stayed the same size, but as the power was increased, they appeared to get larger. If the cross hairs on a low power hunting scope covered 2 inches at 100 yards, that would seem about right.
But increase the power to 8x and they still cover 2 inches, they are of little value as a higher power scope.
Is this scope that way?
But increase the power to 8x and they still cover 2 inches, they are of little value as a higher power scope.
Is this scope that way?
I couldn't tell you to be honest. I haven't seen nor handled this rifle. These pics were sent by brothers friend at work in Sask. He's selling a crapload of winchesters and this happens to be one that I took interest in.
As for the recoil pad/butt extension who knows what it could be covering up.
True. I'll ask owner.
If the scope has the old style of magnification, which I described, where the cross hairs stay the same size regardless of what power it is on, the scope isn't worth a pinch of coon manure.
It likely is that style, because I had a Redfield 2 to 7 power, purchased in 1966, which was that way. Set at two power, where I almost always left it, it was a good hunting scope. But move the power to 7 and the cross hairs appeared 3.5 times wider! A real pain the butt.
If the rifle was in 308 W. it would sell in the 600 range, maybe.
You guys are putting on, what I consider, to be an outrageous premium, because it is in 284.
It likely is that style, because I had a Redfield 2 to 7 power, purchased in 1966, which was that way. Set at two power, where I almost always left it, it was a good hunting scope. But move the power to 7 and the cross hairs appeared 3.5 times wider! A real pain the butt.
If the rifle was in 308 W. it would sell in the 600 range, maybe.
You guys are putting on, what I consider, to be an outrageous premium, because it is in 284.
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CGN Regular
- Location
- Manitoulin Island, Ontario
The 2nd mag is probably worth $100.00 in the 284 and I have seen plenty of non original post 64's in the 284win go for $700-800, so I don't see where a $1000.00 is out of line as long as the original butt plate and the stock is in good condition under the slip on.
I am not allowing anything for the scope as who knows its history. As far as your concerns about the cross hairs, it still will make a fine hunting scope if it functions properly. It is not a target scope by any means, though.
I am not allowing anything for the scope as who knows its history. As far as your concerns about the cross hairs, it still will make a fine hunting scope if it functions properly. It is not a target scope by any means, though.
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CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Victoria,BC.
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I'd say $700 range privately. Note yours has significant wear to checkering. Scope's nice but no $ value. Extra mag's a bonus. Yours looks to be a fine "shooter grade" example. Not to be compared to true "collector grade" , 98% specimens which is where the high asking price's are coming for.
Just my opinion which is what you asked for.
Cheers
Geoff
I'd say $700 range privately. Note yours has significant wear to checkering. Scope's nice but no $ value. Extra mag's a bonus. Yours looks to be a fine "shooter grade" example. Not to be compared to true "collector grade" , 98% specimens which is where the high asking price's are coming for.
Just my opinion which is what you asked for.
Cheers
Geoff
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- Location
- St. Joe's Island, Ont
Correct me if I'm wrong but if it was pre-64 would it not still wear the Kollmorgen Bear Cub name and not the Redfield handle?
When did Redfield take over Kollmorgen?
- Location
- AB foothills
I cant remember an exact year but it was in the late fifties when Redfield bought out that division of Kollmorgen.
$1000 is a fair price for this gun assuming the stock has not been cut and the buttplate is original underneath that slip-on. Front sight hood is missing. The scope adds no value and the extra mag is worth around $100. Winchester only made about 3000 .284 88s pre-64, making this configuration second in rarity only to the post-64 .358. I think that .243 and .358 might be more desirable 88s but I guess that depends on who you ask. I'm sure somebody would pay around $1000 for this gun. The reality is more likely $800-$900. $1500 is way overkill though and I don't see anybody paying that.
As a fairly avid Win collector I'm afraid I have to agree with the lower end prices. There is a lot of wear on the wood and as said before the scope is worth zero. I bought mine in 308 approx same condition for $475 (this was a very good deal) just a few months back and the 284 adds about $100, for a collector the spare mag means zero. You can sell it though for about 75-100 bucks.
Bottom line as a shooter 600-700 bucks max.
Bottom line as a shooter 600-700 bucks max.
The scope is not a concern,the gun,around 800 as it looks much like a hunter.Nice guns for sure.I have seen three of these guns in the last year or so,at gun shows,from 850 to 950.That was gun show, pricing.The best one was a 9.5 out of 10.This one looks a little rougher, by the picture.
