Value of "pre '64" model 70's decreasing with introduction of the new crf?

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So I have always seen that pre 64 model 70's usually sell for a premium. It is understandable in the past that people would pay a high price for a great CRF action gun. The way I see it, now that winchester has re-introduced the CRF action in their current guns, and selling them at the same price this should drop the value of "pre 64" models down considerably, should it not??

A brand new winchester with a CRF action can be bought for around $800, blued with a walnut stock. How would anyone expect to sell a gun that is 48+ years old for more money than a brand new gun with the same action. Now leave collectors out of this, I understand that there is a large collectors niche for those guns, but i'm talking used and abused hunting guns. Is there some property to the "pre 64" guns that is still far superior to the current CRF guns? Or am I right in thinking that the re-introduction of the CRF action in the winchester line should knock the "pre 64" models down to a value indicative of an old gun that is worn and scratched?
 
The value will never get knocked down to simple "scratched up used gun" level. There is a certain cachet to the original "pre-64" rifle that is staying with it.
Actually, I think the value of these rifles has decreased somewhat....it remains only very slightly higher than it was twenty years ago, while new gun prices have nearly doubled.

For many people, a newer reisuue will never be the same as the original, collectors aside. You can get a brand new Winchester 1886 for about $1600 or so. Or you can get a decent, scratched-up, well-used original for $2500 or more.
 
From my observations, shooter grade common caliber pre-64 rifles have dropped in value with the reintroduction in 2008.

Shooter grade standard weight 30-06 rifles were everywhere in the 450-550 range until 2005 or so, then climbed when the Classics were discontinued to 750-1000, and are now falling. IMO this is largely due to the quality of rifle FN is producing.
 
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I don't think the "new" CRF model 70's have affected value of true collector-grade pre-64's. As for well worn or altered rifles, I think they have gone down in value somewhat. For hunting I like newer CRF rifles especially the latest FN Winchesters. Owned a new .338 Super-Grade and recently picked up a new Super-Grade in .270 WSM and am very impressed with the quality and accuracy. Took it to the range on the weekend for the first time a easily got some sub-moa groups at 75 yards. I can't wait for the 2012 Alaskan .338 to become available. I'd rather drag it through the bush than a mint original.
Here's a 1954 .300H+H I sold a few years back. Loved it but was looong and heavy.
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Love the .300H+H so had this one built recently on a 1990's .338 "Boss" Super-Grade. Went with a 24" Douglas barrel.
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Geoff
 
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The Pre '64's will retain their collector's appeal, the new version only comes short in caliber selection. I love my 2008 limited edition, but I may have picked a 280 Rem. instead of the 300 WSM if it would of been offered.
 
dan belisle said:
Well, maybe if the actually built a 2012 version of a 1970 Mustang. - dan
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nail done been smacked on the head

NAA said:
Likely the closest thing you'd see there would be a newly made to look like a 1970 Mustang body on a 2012 frame/drivetrain/internals.... ;)

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ya because back then the mustangs blew hard core and engineering today would be ashamed to build something as unsafe as that. frame drivetrain steering and such
 
Is it just me or has the wood furniture changed? I was in wholesale last week checking a new M70 featherweight out and I was pleased with the action but was really disappointed with the quality of walnut on the stock. My dad owns the same rifle from the 80s and it doesn't seem to have the lack in quality I saw. It looked really cheap.
 
stubblejumper01 said:
Is it just me or has the wood furniture changed? I was in wholesale last week checking a new M70 featherweight out and I was pleased with the action but was really disappointed with the quality of walnut on the stock. My dad owns the same rifle from the 80s and it doesn't seem to have the lack in quality I saw. It looked really cheap.
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I just picked up 2 new FN M70's, one Featherweight 7-08 and a super grade 30-06 and both have great stocks IMO. I was able to pick each one since the stores had a couple of each in stock at the time. The 30-06 has a very nice stock.....:D
 
I have an older win model 70 rifle in 308 win caliber. How do I tell if it is pre 64 or not? Also need a replacement stock for it, is the stock the same for multiple calibers?

Rodney
 
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