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yeah.... that sucks.. and you cannot take it back and ask wtf?!? is edited my last post... see above... I know it'll come out.. its just a matter of approach
Vancouver drill press?
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well, you have three choices then:
file/grind it out with a dremel and then pick n chisel.
reverse drill bit/screw extractor
Mill it out
Each has its pro's and con's . All will work with success but the finish depends on the person doing the work. because youve drilled it already , you will need to use a mill to cut the screw. That off center hole will only amplify any further drilling with a regular drill bit. ( the purpose of a reverse bit is to act as a "wrench" and as it bites it loosens the broken screw (if your lucky)
Grinding will ultimately do the job with time patience and care. but you need to express patience and care over the time it will take or you will marr the receiver.
the mill will cut into the screw regardless of the hole and it will remove it cleanly, but you need the mill and well if you dont have one, youre gonna most likely be out of pocket... so... pick one of the lesser evils and go from there.
file/grind it out with a dremel and then pick n chisel.
reverse drill bit/screw extractor
Mill it out
Each has its pro's and con's . All will work with success but the finish depends on the person doing the work. because youve drilled it already , you will need to use a mill to cut the screw. That off center hole will only amplify any further drilling with a regular drill bit. ( the purpose of a reverse bit is to act as a "wrench" and as it bites it loosens the broken screw (if your lucky)
Grinding will ultimately do the job with time patience and care. but you need to express patience and care over the time it will take or you will marr the receiver.
the mill will cut into the screw regardless of the hole and it will remove it cleanly, but you need the mill and well if you dont have one, youre gonna most likely be out of pocket... so... pick one of the lesser evils and go from there.
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Very sketchy.. your screw head is below the level of the receiver metal.. and a tig welder regardless of amps always has a zone that is affected by ionization. its call the H.A.Z. or "heat affected zone" It will marr the finish on the receiver. Youre better off with machining or extraction tools... one last suggestion... its a long shot but if you can find yourself a piece of spring steel and form it into a wedge type point that you can jam into the hole you drilled (without deforming the screw) you just might be able to back it out.. another sketchy approach , just a possiblilty.
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Yep'
thats what'choo call "murphies law" . Welcome to screw extraction 101...
Find someone with a mill. If I was still in Vancouver I would have invited you over already...
There are some available down to 4-40 sized screws...
thats what'choo call "murphies law" . Welcome to screw extraction 101...
Find someone with a mill. If I was still in Vancouver I would have invited you over already...
There are some available down to 4-40 sized screws...
Coincidentally the wife and I looked at a house for sale yesterday around the corner. The owner (who wasn't home) had a wicked shop in the basement with drill press, lathe, saws and everything. And he had a spring piston pellet rifle stuffed up in the ceiling. I should knock on his door... "hi.. I was looking at your house yesterday and noticed you have a drill press in your shop..."
Haha. Or not. That's a bit too weird for me.
Haha. Or not. That's a bit too weird for me.
Don't be surprised if he says yes. Most handy guys with lots of tools (least the ones I know) tend to like challenges. If he's any good with them is another story. Heck, I was doing reno work one time and a guy saw me cutting up some panels on a tablesaw in the garage and asked if I could cut a couple shelves to length for him. He offered to pay for my time but I said it's all good. He ran back home to grab his shelves and came back with a 6pack. That hit the spot on a hot summer's day.
Pazzo
The way I see it you have 2 options. #1 take it to a machine shop or gun smith to have the broken screw removed.
Probably an hours labor at the going shop rate. #2 buy some needle files and spend some time a lot of time slowly
filing the drilled hole until you can see the receiver threads and then using a dental pick or O ring pick to remove
the screw threads pulling them out like a small coil spring.
As a previous poster said collapse the screw to remove it will work but the threads will need to be cleaned up with a tap.
You will need to buy a tap and some needle files and a small punch to collapse the screw and hope for the best outcome.
The machine shop or gunsmith option will not be a lot more money and the results will be what you want.
Terry
The way I see it you have 2 options. #1 take it to a machine shop or gun smith to have the broken screw removed.
Probably an hours labor at the going shop rate. #2 buy some needle files and spend some time a lot of time slowly
filing the drilled hole until you can see the receiver threads and then using a dental pick or O ring pick to remove
the screw threads pulling them out like a small coil spring.
As a previous poster said collapse the screw to remove it will work but the threads will need to be cleaned up with a tap.
You will need to buy a tap and some needle files and a small punch to collapse the screw and hope for the best outcome.
The machine shop or gunsmith option will not be a lot more money and the results will be what you want.
Terry
I've had good luck with small diamond needle files in a cordless drill. The small diameter ones can be somewhat flexible, but the drill is a slow enough speed that it won't jump or chatter like a dremel or die grinder would. Takes time and patience of course.
Someone else mentioned a TIG welder. While I wouldn't try to weld a nut on it, a TIG can be a handy tool for heating quickly. Just touch the tungsten to the broken screw and let it warm up for a couple seconds. Just be careful to not actually strike an arc, and there would be no need for shielding gas, shouldn't cause much (if any) discolouration to the surrounding area.
Someone else mentioned a TIG welder. While I wouldn't try to weld a nut on it, a TIG can be a handy tool for heating quickly. Just touch the tungsten to the broken screw and let it warm up for a couple seconds. Just be careful to not actually strike an arc, and there would be no need for shielding gas, shouldn't cause much (if any) discolouration to the surrounding area.
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- Union Bay Vancouver Island BC
Guys with shops.. and interests in guns.. you need no other tool than what you already have... its like boys and their toys.. something we will never grow out of... Its just the way we're wired. The women will never understand that.. but they will always make annoying comments about it! LoL!!
go knock on his door.. say hey... introduce yourself and explain your problem. chances are interest will be there. but remember.. its a drill press not a mill.
Lots of good ideas on this thread and everyone seems to be - for the most part, in agreement as far as I can tell.
nothing ventured nothing gained....
and dont forget about technicut.. you can get a single endmill from them that will fit and put it in the drill press... you just need to fixture the gun so that its all square and such and wont move around as you chug away at the broken screw.
go knock on his door.. say hey... introduce yourself and explain your problem. chances are interest will be there. but remember.. its a drill press not a mill.
Lots of good ideas on this thread and everyone seems to be - for the most part, in agreement as far as I can tell.
nothing ventured nothing gained....
and dont forget about technicut.. you can get a single endmill from them that will fit and put it in the drill press... you just need to fixture the gun so that its all square and such and wont move around as you chug away at the broken screw.
the only way to remove the screw now its had a drill off one side is a milling machine, you could use a drill press with a milling cutter my concern there is the chuck is not securely held in the spindle, seen too many come off and they will make a mess of the receiver surface.
too bad you are not closer, I could take it out in half hour and look as good as new
the tig could work out and needle file and punch makes me shudder
too bad you are not closer, I could take it out in half hour and look as good as new
the tig could work out and needle file and punch makes me shudder
