Vanguard S2 vs Tikka t3

Both my Tikka's shoot well under moa, and I really like them. But after reading this thread, that Vanguard in 22-250 on sale for 560$ at Crappy tire is comin home with me today. Unless they are closed for Rememberence day.
And that Mark and Sam from Aussie land are shooting crazy distances with stock Howa barrels.
 
kman35ca said:
Both my Tikka's shoot well under moa, and I really like them. But after reading this thread, that Vanguard in 22-250 on sale for 560$ at Crappy tire is comin home with me today. Unless they are closed for Rememberence day.
And that Mark and Sam from Aussie land are shooting crazy distances with stock Howa barrels.
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I have a NEW un shot one in the safe I bought off a member here - its ready to go now with a Bushnell 6500 Elite 4-16 on it ! I am sure it will shoot well as my other 2 a 240 and a 257 both shoot WELL ! RJ
 
remington jim said:
LOL is that based on the fact its like 2 lbs Heavier ? :p:p ;) RJ
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Not a disadvantage in the heavier calibers IMHO. My light rifle is a 7mm-08 Seven that's 7.25 lbs with the scope. Lighter and shorter than the Tikka. Don't mind a .270 Win that's 9lb all in with a 30mm tube scope.
 
blwebster said:
The Vanguards use the HOWA action and barrel so if you want an accurate yet light sporting rifle, just order a Howa Alpine Mountain Rifle. They are light, tend to shoot well under 1 MOA and many are better than that so for a factory rifle they are a bargain.

That being said, I would not complain about weight, since more people should probably be shooting hunting rifles weighing in around 8 pounds or a bit more with scope, mounts etc. in order to effect optimal accuracy. The trend to lighter weight rifles in my mind has resulted in a lot of poor shooters among the more recent entrants to the hunting sports. More of these people should be told to man up and do it right, shoot more as well.

Just my personal view.
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I agree with using a heavier rifle for less felt recoil, accuracy and stability. There are those who will say that a 5 pound rifle can be as accurate as an 8 pound rifle but the only advantage is carrying weight on challenging mountain type hunts. And if one is going to shoot a rifle for paper punching and set-up the heavier rifle will have less recoil, and less muzzle jump. This will be noticeable when shooting more the 1/2 dozen rounds.

The Howa line of rifles do not cater to the LH shooter in any configuration or caliber. And Weatherby states that the Vanguard 2 is built to a price-point and the LH configuration does not meet the thresh hold for their price point. This is a bit of a cop out as Savage, Tikka, Remington, & Ruger build some LH rifles to a price point. And Browning builds LH in the Hunter and Medallion lines but not in the AB3.
 
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