I know I am going against the trend, but I have never been in awe of Timney triggers. I currently have several Howas/Vanguards, the HACT (their newest) trigger is the best of the three I have. I did a trigger job, and clean on one old model trigger, and it came out much better, some 5000 grit paper etc, much nicer. I put in a timney, and meh, is the best I can muster. The newer factory triggers seem much better.