"Varget" 303br, 270win, 35w and 300wsm?

WhelanLad

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Gday guys!

This is one for the experienced reloaders...

After talking about the 300wsm, I want to reload for it an will purchase dies for it pretty soon.

My question is I currently use "Varget" for the 35 Whelen... And Id like to use 2208 for the Calibres mentioned above, although in regards to the 300wsm it is suitable for up to 165gr projectiles although the velocities arnt as high as they would be with certain other powders...

Whats your opinion on running a powder like Varget/2208 in the 300wsm and even the 270 for that matter?



Some .270 data for 140gr
gr* powder* min* fps* max* fps*
140 AR2206H 24" 40.0 2625 - 42.6 2770 -
140 AR2208 24" 41.0 2625 - 43.7 2770 -
140 AR2209 24" 49.0 2735 - 52.0 2870 -
140 AR2213SC 24" 54.0 2715 - 58.0 C 2890 -
140 AR2217 24" 59.0 2770 - 63.0 C 2980

& 130gr
130 AR2206H 24" 42.0 2780 - 45.0 2920 -
130 AR2208 24" 43.0 2795 - 46.0 2930 -
130 AR2209 24" 51.0 2865 - 54.3 3010 -
130 AR2213SC 24" 56.0 2845 - 60.0 C 3020 -
130 AR2217 24" 61.0 2900 - 64.0 C 3025


And some 300wsm data

150 AR2206H 24" 51.0 2920 53400 psi 54.5 3080 63100 psi
150 AR2208 24" 55.0 3010 56800 psi 58.5 3140 63800 psi
150 AR2209 24" 63.0 3040 55700 psi 67.0 3185 63200 psi


165gr
gr* powder* min* fps * max* fps*
165 Bnch Mrk8208 24" 51.1 2850 55600 psi 54.4 2965 61700 psi
165 AR2206H 24" 51.0 2810 55700 psi 54.0 2930 63200 psi
165 AR2208 24" 54.0 2860 56400 psi 57.5 2990 63700 psi
165 AR2209 24" 61.0 2895 54800 psi 65.5 3050 63600 psi


I don't believe I will miss the 100 FPS from using 2208? or will I?

cheers
wl
 
WhelanLad said:
Gday guys!

This is one for the experienced reloaders...

After talking about the 300wsm, I want to reload for it an will purchase dies for it pretty soon.

My question is I currently use "Varget" for the 35 Whelen... And Id like to use 2208 for the Calibres mentioned above, although in regards to the 300wsm it is suitable for up to 165gr projectiles although the velocities arnt as high as they would be with certain other powders...

Whats your opinion on running a powder like Varget/2208 in the 300wsm and even the 270 for that matter?



Some .270 data for 140gr
gr* powder* min* fps* max* fps*
140 AR2206H 24" 40.0 2625 - 42.6 2770 -
140 AR2208 24" 41.0 2625 - 43.7 2770 -
140 AR2209 24" 49.0 2735 - 52.0 2870 -
140 AR2213SC 24" 54.0 2715 - 58.0 C 2890 -
140 AR2217 24" 59.0 2770 - 63.0 C 2980

& 130gr
130 AR2206H 24" 42.0 2780 - 45.0 2920 -
130 AR2208 24" 43.0 2795 - 46.0 2930 -
130 AR2209 24" 51.0 2865 - 54.3 3010 -
130 AR2213SC 24" 56.0 2845 - 60.0 C 3020 -
130 AR2217 24" 61.0 2900 - 64.0 C 3025


And some 300wsm data

150 AR2206H 24" 51.0 2920 53400 psi 54.5 3080 63100 psi
150 AR2208 24" 55.0 3010 56800 psi 58.5 3140 63800 psi
150 AR2209 24" 63.0 3040 55700 psi 67.0 3185 63200 psi


165gr
gr* powder* min* fps * max* fps*
165 Bnch Mrk8208 24" 51.1 2850 55600 psi 54.4 2965 61700 psi
165 AR2206H 24" 51.0 2810 55700 psi 54.0 2930 63200 psi
165 AR2208 24" 54.0 2860 56400 psi 57.5 2990 63700 psi
165 AR2209 24" 61.0 2895 54800 psi 65.5 3050 63600 psi


I don't believe I will miss the 100 FPS from using 2208? or will I?

cheers
wl
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North Americans are not real familiar with Australian powder types and numbers. I predict you won't get too many valuable responses. We do know Varget and I really think its way too fast for any reasonable bullet weights for the 300WSM.

NormB
 
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yeah Normb, good call I didn't really think of matchin the other powders with familiar NA powders!

ive asked on aussie forums so will see what responses I get there.

cheers
wl
 
NormB said:
North Americans are not real familiar with Australian powder types and numbers. I predict you won't get too many valuable responses. We do know Varget and I really think its way too fast for any reasonable bullet weights for the 300WSM.

NormB
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Gentlemen, you have a Remington/DuPont powder plant in Canada, and Remington/DuPont setup the powder plant in Mulwala Australia, and has been in partnership with Hodgdons for over 25 years. You Canadians know the numbers but forgot how to speak Australian and where half our powder comes from...............:bangHead:

American English on the left, Australian English on the right

H4227 = AR2205
H4895 = AR2206H
H4198 = AR2207
Varget = AR2208
H4350 = AR2209
H4831 = AR2213
H4831SC = AR2213SC
H1000 = AR2217

The rest of the powders are listed below from Hodgdons website.
http://www.hodgdon.com/msds.html

As a side note the American company Pratt and Whitney set up and made the machinery for the Australian Lithgow Enfield factory. And I think during WWII is when Remington/DuPont setup the powder plant at Mulwala Australia.
 
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