Varmint Hunting

Hey thanx for the info varmint5.9... I have learnt a lot about Texas from you so I think it is only fair to tell you about my province of Ontario.
Ontario is exactly 265,982,720 acres big.... that is almost twice the size of Texas.:)
We have Coyotes here too and Ontario Coyotes are the biggest coyotes in North America, they are mixed genetically with the grey wolves and they can go to 60 pounds easily. 50 pounders are the norm in my neck of the woods! We also have Big deer up here you shoot a 250 pound buck and nobody notices cuz it is just a yearling. I have seen some bucks up here go 350- 400 pounds and Does that tip the scales at 200. We have Jackrabbits here that go 30 pounds and some of them have been known to attack small dogs. Jus kiddin about that attackin dogs part.;)
In Ontario we have Crown Land.... which belongs to every citizen and we can hunt and fish and camp on it whenever we like cuz it belongs to us. The Crown land in this province is roughly 85% of the province so I have 210,000,000 acres to hunt on. Not counting the measley 850 acres that is privately owned or controlled by myself and my hunting partners.
In this "Bigger than Texas" Province we have a population of 12 million people whereas Texas has 21 Million people living in it. Our percentage of hunters is about 1 out of every 25 citizens.... and in Texas it is about one out of two.:( So that leaves a lot of unhunted land in Ontario that is not patrolled or even set foot on by anyone.
But I think I will start patrolling this land because the government will let me. We are having a bit of a set too with Greenland right now and they have laid claim to an island in the far north that is Canadian land. The land up there is frozen tundra for the most part and these Greenlanders are basically living on the ice.... we call them "Cubes". Maybe these Greenlanders or Cubes are coming across the border to get at our lumber... they don't even have trees up there... just shrubberies... I don't like em at all. These Cubes could be taking liberties with our Inuit peoples (That means Eskimo in American!) for all I know. I am not sure what kind of truck I'm gonna have to get to patrol this vast northland but I will be taking something bigger than my coyote gun for the Timber wolves as they are over 100 pounds up on the Canadian shield.
I suppose we are not all that different Ontario and Texas... except for the fact that everything is bigger up here.:eek:
I'm serious.
 
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Chuck said:
I'm just trying to get my head around how big that is. The King Ranch is 825,000 acres. This ranch works out to being 3,008,000 acres.

The wikipedia reference has some interesting info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Ranch

vmaster59 you should get in touch with them. They are saying that the King Ranch is the biggest in the U.S. and the one that you are talking about is supposed to be almost four times bigger.

Chuck
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Hi,when I say 3,000,000 acres Iam not talking about one ranch!I have about 20 that I take care of.Man who do you know that would have a ranch that big ? Man the taxes would eat you up! And I don't care if you belive me or not.I know what I got and that's all that counts. I came here to see if anybody did varmint hunting and to see what the people were like here.
I was told a long time ago that a man is only as good as his word. You can take my to the bank!

Bigrred I to have learnd somethings about y'all. I knew there would be diff. in the land and how you hunt.your laws would be diff. That is what I was wanting to know.But to see how some just want to talk about how they don't belive what you say is unreal.Here we take a man at his word and a hand shake seals the deal still. I have only one member to welcome me to this board and I find that hard to belive. And it sounds like your "cubes" are like our "wets". so we may have something in common.


Hydro12 if do get to come down you just drop me a pm here. Iam about 8 hrs. from there. And to tell you from what I have seen here for the most
I don't think I will be ever going to Alberta.But thanks for the offer. Iam not saying eveybody is that way,so pls. don't think that. And I hope it is still ok to come to this board and talk about hunting and how somethings are diff. Just not to put someone down for what they say or what they belive. Man life is too short for that and getting shorter evey day. Life is good lets just enjoy it while we can. I don't mine someone asking questions about life here. Or how we do things here.And what is the hunting like.Just don't put me down when I give mine anser. I know you are proud of your home land just as I am. That is good to see,so many people are not like that even here. It just looks tooooooo cold for that o'boy LOL. Thanks Clint.
 
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Hi, this I like !


Quote:
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873)

Could someone here tell me what are these groups I have seen here. And what do the letters stand for. And who is this John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) ,is he from up there and what did he do. Thanks Clint.
 
vmaster59 said:
Hydro12 if do get to come down you just drop me a pm here. Iam about 8 hrs. from there. And to tell you from what I have seen here for the most
I don't think I will be ever going to Alberta.But thanks for the offer. Iam not saying eveybody is that way,so pls. don't think that. And I hope it is still ok to come to this board and talk about hunting and how somethings are diff. Just not to put someone down for what they say or what they belive. Man life is too short for that and getting shorter evey day. Life is good lets just enjoy it while we can. I don't mine someone asking questions about life here. Or how we do things here.And what is the hunting like.Just don't put me down when I give mine anser. I know you are proud of your home land just as I am. That is good to see,so many people are not like that even here. It just looks tooooooo cold for that o'boy LOL. Thanks Clint.
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Very cool...I'll let you know just before I head down. I'm not sure I follow witht he rest of the post?? Has someone from Alberta been putting you down for something you said? If so that's pretty sad no matter where you are from.

Don't worry about the cold..hell last week it was in the 90's pushing the 100's...just don't come down in the winter months ;)

Before you decide NOT to come up here..check out this post from a fellow Texan...maybe it was you???

"I am here for a few months on business and just wondered if anyone up here might want to swap a hunt in Alberta for a hunt at my place in Texas for either whitetail or turkey? If this interests you drop me a line and we can talk while I am here for the next few months and see if we can work it out. I prefer bow or pistoil hunt but I think I am ok with a rifle. I shoot benchrest so I prefer the bow or pistol to make things a fair hunt but I realize their limitations or range, conditions and such. I am a middle aged outdoorsman who loves to hunt and enjoy the animals in their settings. I only shoot it if I am gonna eat it . I figure if I ain't gonna eat it needs to live for the next fella.

Signed,
Native Texan
I must say this place called Alberta sure could make a fella want to go to Texas and grab the ATV and pack up and move here.
Damn near God's Country up here."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stuart_Mill

John Stuart Mill,

One foundational book on the concept of liberty was On Liberty, about the nature and limits of the power which can be legitimately exercised by society over the individual. One argument that Mill developed further than any previous philosopher was the harm principle, that is, people should be free to engage in whatever behavior they wish as long as it does not harm others, acting in order to prevent the individual from harming himself is not legitimate, however from this Mill excludes those "incapable of self-government" such as young children or 'barbarians'.
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English philosopher, not easy reading and I have not read any of his works completely. It is a great quote, freedom is important.
 
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Hi,is anybody on tonight ? Yes freedow is very important.And so is the fright to keep one's self freedow.And not to depen on others to do your frighting for you.But to fright beside you or get the hell out of the way.Thanks Clint.
 
Not really a lot to say - I like shooting gophers. Lots and lots of dead gophers. Close range gopher kills with th 22-250 and 'helicopters.' Quarter mile shots are gratifying but rare.
We usually use gopher outings as sight-in and load development sessions - I've busted the critters with a lot of different guns, and we've even had 458's, 460's and 416's out in the fields ;)
Coyottes not as much fun - more waiting and hunting, less shooting. Typical gopher afternoon yields up to 1000 dead gophers - a coyote day typically only nets you a half-dozen 'yotes at most.
I've been meaning to try crow hunting as well - if only cause it means I get to - nay, NEED to - buy another 12ga and assorted other accessories
 
prosper said:
Coyottes not as much fun - more waiting and hunting, less shooting.
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That 'less fun' part is just plain wrong.:) Coyote hunting vs. Gopher shooting. Both 'fun' for different reasons.;) At least for me, I like the hunting and the shooting, both, about equally.:D
 
^ exactly right, they're not really the same activity at all.

Gophers are all about precision, and shooting practise. Coyotes are all bout outsmarting the critter. Crows are a bit of both
 
I have shot a many coyotes at night in defense of property... livestock protection as an agent hunter. This is not Varmint Hunting in any way shape or form! I don't usually post here about my P/H work because I don't consider it hunting and the animals I kill while doing that are certainly not trophys.... just paychecks.:redface:


Now then... shooting them off the baitpile out the Bathroom window... well that's what I call Hunting!:D
 
Hi,I got a new hand call in this week.It sounds realy good.Can't wate to try it out.Working on a new E-Caller now,should be up and running soon.Thanks Clint.
 
Will this e-caller be able to be used remotely?
What does your new hand caller mimick?
What seems to work in your neck of the woods?
Lately I have been having good luck with fawn bawls and fawn distress.After you take one, I will switch to a coyote death cry and have had an extra customer or two show up.
Happy calling(and shooting)
 
Hi,I varmint hunt to protect livestock,and the land also.No matter why you do it is still varmint hunting.To some it is for the sport and a few like myself it is for sport and for keeping the ranchers happy as well as a paycheck.



The E-Caller will be remote.My hand calls are jackrabbit,cottentail,I do the woodpecker and do alot of howling of diff.kinds.I do some other birds as well.For that is some of the things we have here.Thanks Clint.
 
What kind of hand call did you get? Do you make them? I've got most of Randy Andersons calls plus a few custom ones made by a guy in Montana. Those Montana calls are friggin' awesome! They are all natural made from cow-horn (my howlers) and elk antler (distress call) Paid a bank-note for them because of customs though. They sound great and really bring the dogs in. Called a few wolves too when I was living in northern Saskatchewan.
 
Hi,here are some pics.

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Here is a new rig.

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And more rigs.

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Gotta love it LOL. Thanks Clint.
 
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