Vegans and vegetarians...

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After being treated to the 'morally ethical' speeches and looked down the nose once too often about 'exploiting innocent animals ' I decided to knock them off their highbrow perch and go on the offensive by stating ' nobody who drinks water can claim to be a vegetarian '( a point of view they've never been confronted with before and aren't ready for because it's a fact)and then when can't answer that they start on about 'confining animals into small spaces ' I ask 'what about the animals in your water bottle that once roamed free in lakes and rivers until you selfishly captured them and confined them in small water bottles until you swallowed them screaming and yelling and kicking as you ate them alive?...I at least KILL my meat before I eat it( trust me,they've never been confronted with that one) .....and when they try to back peddle and say 'but they are very small and I can't see them' I spring the trap and demand 'since when has SIZE got to do with morality?but if you insist on drinking water,will you at least boil it first to kill the animals you are 'exploiting'?.. and as for ' not seeing them' I say ' so what you really mean is it's ok to eat a beefsteak as long as you put a blindfold on?'...then just sit back and listen to their feeble areguements as they try to wiggle out of the corner they just painted themselves into..and NOBODY has been able to give me an answer why ' you can't claim to be a vegetarian or vegan if you drink water'....gotta love it...(my wife says 'do you HAVE to do that ? And I say 'yup,I do',and besides,it's fun')
 
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My wife is a vegetarian. Going on about 4 years now.
Her choice was made because she generally just did not care for the taste of 99% of meats she was served (I know I don't get it either).

She decided that instead of picking through a steak and cutting out all the "gross" parts and only consuming 30% of the meat she would rather just give it over to me.
Kind of a sweet deal on my end, anything I hunt is all mine to devour, when purchasing meat I can spend that extra few $ on a better cut since I buy 1/2 as much.

She has no negative feelings to me hunting or eating a bloody steak in front of her.
 
While I am a meat eater, I can understand some of the arguments that Vegans bring up. Namely the ethical treatment of animals, I used to not care but the industrialization of the meat and dairy industry is disturbing and something I don't personally support. I also don't think that all of the hormones, steroids and anti-biotics that we are putting into animals are healthy for us as well. I don't advocate for Veganism or vegetarianism but I do think we would benefit if we reduced our meat intake as a society - at least we all would live longer...
 
I tell vegetarians that they are disrespectful of their family. They don't understand so I explain :

Your ancestors didn't claw their way to the top of the food chain so you could eat a carrot!!
 
TimKruitbosch said:
My wife is a vegetarian. Going on about 4 years now.
Her choice was made because she generally just did not care for the taste of 99% of meats she was served (I know I don't get it either).

She decided that instead of picking through a steak and cutting out all the "gross" parts and only consuming 30% of the meat she would rather just give it over to me.
Kind of a sweet deal on my end, anything I hunt is all mine to devour, when purchasing meat I can spend that extra few $ on a better cut since I buy 1/2 as much.

She has no negative feelings to me hunting or eating a bloody steak in front of her.
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Yep that sums up a lot of vegetarians.

They always have a weakness though. They love chicken nuggets. Its like crack for vegetarians.
 
I'm a vegitarian. Grew up on a mixed farm, ate Alberta beef most of my life. Really don't give a sh1t wht you think. I chose not to eat meat for a number of reasons. One is that I don't feel that any animal should have to live any portion of its life in absolute terror. Another being that even moderate consumption of red met leads to a big increase in heart disease which runs in my family. Another is the expense. There are more, but these ones should give you lots of fuel for the flame.

My wife is Meatasaurous Carnivisourous and much enjoys the blood dripping off her chin from a nicely BBQ'd steak. I love to cook it, I have no problem killing it, I just have no interest in eating it.

Really don't understand what your issue is with people making lifestyle choices that couldn't possibly affect your choice for the bacon double cheeseburger.

Just to note, I eat seafood and fish and eggs, so don't know how that equates into your equation. I use the term vegetarian lightly, because the definition (thanks google) of an animal is a "living organism that feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly to stimuli."

Maybe I could define my food choices as excluding organisms with feelings? You can yell at a fish all day and not hurt his feelings. Then again, I don't think chickens have feelings either. Maybe just exclude organisms with legs? But what about lobster and crab? mmmm.

It's complicated.

edit: and yes I get the humour in your post :)
 
I just tell them that my food ####ts on their food! LMAO Who gives a rats a$$ what they choose to eat or not eat! It's just like those idiots protesting outside the International Centre during the Sportsman Show about the African Hunting booths...they can protest all they want as i will do whatever the phuck I want so long as it is legal!
 
I don't really care if people eat meat or they don't for whatever reason they choose...that's THEIR businesses ,what I was taking issue with was their messianic delusions to tell ME what I was doing was 'unethical'......for the record,I try to eat more fruit and vegetables that I grow myself and wild fish that I catch than red meat ,and what red meat I eat I try to harvest myself....at least I know the fish wasn't farmed and the moose or deer was eating what God intended it to eat,and not fed a bunch of growth hormones....who knows what the long term effects are(Andre says he doesn't care what they say about how safe it's,all he knows is what he sees on his examining table)

my hunting partner Andre is a surgeon from South Africa and he says he sees far more cancers of the gut than he ever saw in South Africa and when I asked him why? , he said 'what we're eating' -the people in SA ate mainly whole grain foods that they prepared themselves and what meat they ate was either wild game or grass fed...not laced with growth hormones.Even our commercially produced milk comes from cows fed hormones in their diet.Funny,he also says the SA kids are the healthiest kids in the world,they're on the tit not formula, eat whatever they can stuff in their mouth rarely wash anything and run around barefoot all day...food alergies are almost unknown and they have excellent immune systems.....kinda makes you think,doesn't it?

What a lot of people fail to take into account is there are 'prey' species and 'preditor' species and in the natural order of things prey species get eaten.Of course I believe we should endeavour to treat any animal humainly ,but on the other hand,Nothing likes being eaten...and I make no apologies for enjoying fishing even if the salmon is desperately trying to get away
 
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