VELOCITOR 22LR for coyotes?

BIGREDD said:
I have shot them with .22 and .22 magnum as well...it's not a good idea a .22 rimfire of any description is too light for coyotes in most circumstances. Certainly not adequate for coyotes in the 50-60 pound class.
When I am in tight and expect to be shooting inside of 75 yards... I use 3 1/2 inch heavy-shot or Buckshot... why would you even want to use a .22rf?
My preferred cal is .25 - .270.
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Why do some jump in with "I have done it, but you should not even think about it"? You guys hold some special patent rights on experiments of this type? You guys think you are better than others here? Whats the scoop?


Don't take it personal BR, I just used your post as an example, not pointing at you in particular. :D
 
joe-nwt said:
Why do some jump in with "I have done it, but you should not even think about it"? You guys hold some special patent rights on experiments of this type? You guys think you are better than others here? Whats the scoop?


Don't take it personal BR, I just used your post as an example, not pointing at you in particular. :D
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A simple enough explanation for that is............learn from my mistake, rather than making them yourself.;) When people are saying they've done it, but don't reccomend it, they aren't doing it themselves anymore, and are just passing on thier personal experience.
 
joe-nwt said:
Why do some jump in with "I have done it, but you should not even think about it"? You guys hold some special patent rights on experiments of this type? You guys think you are better than others here? Whats the scoop?


Don't take it personal BR, I just used your post as an example, not pointing at you in particular. :D
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The guy specifically asked what we think... should the people with experience on the topic not post at all. Or should we give advice and then not qualify it with our own experience. Or let the poster guess as to the veracity of the answers?:confused:

How about this... lets just randomly question other posters motives and f**k the thread up completely!

I cannot answer as to the others motives Joe but I don't think I am better than anyone else here. If I had a superiority complex I would never admit to wounding animals with a .22 rimfire.:redface:

Nothing personal Joe...;)
 
Icefire said:
I would use Stinger or Quick Shok, Higher Velocity / energy
At 100 yrds they have more velocity/energy than most HV at muzzle.

Stinger have less than 1inch trajectory deflection within 100 yrds.

Velocitor:
Velocity, ft/sec
Muzzle 50 75 100 yards
1435 1230 1149 1084

Energy, ft-lbs
Muzzle 50 75 100 yards
183 134 117 104

Stinger / Quik-Shok:
Velocity, ft/sec
Muzzle 50 75 100 yards
1640 1601 1582 1562

Energy, ft-lbs
Muzzle 50 75 100 yards
191 182 178 173
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Where'd you get those numbers? For a Stinger to still be doing 1562fps at 100yards, it'd have to have a BC of .700 :eek:

From what I can tell, it should be closer to 1100fps at 100yds
 
Those velocitators definately have allot of punch, I never did have a chance to shoot a coyote with one though. Most other .22lr is marginaly effective. If its what you have in your hand when the shot apears, than yeah, but don't go out hunting for them with the .22lr. I actualy think the .223 is marginal on them. Well thats compared to the effect of .30cal's like .308, 30-06 ect.
 
I wouldnt assume anything about what I have and have not seen shot, and with what. I have shot two coyotes square in the chest with the .223, and 60 grain vmax's after that I retired it to gophers, and crows ect only, because they Both ran way to far after the shot. I have also droped on the spot a running coyote at 200yards with a single shot from a 22lr(a fluke shot if there ever was one) When I got to him there was blood running out of his mouth and nose, and his sides I was impressed. I have shot and killed more coyotes with a 22lr than I care to mention, and have used copious ammots of ammo to do so(sometimes emptying entire 30rd clips). :) I don't go hunting coyotes with a .22lr though, these were all shots of opertunity.
 
Yotes can take a surprising amount of killing. IMHO the most ideal coyote calibre is a 6mm of some sort. However 223's, the Hornet, and the 22-250 are all quite capable, just witout as much 'insurance factor.'
 
A .22LR is too weak, shouldn’t be used especially seeing how you can get a Stevens 200 in .243 or 25-06 for $319. Of course if a yotes attacking your live stock or pets etc by all means open fire with the .22LR.
 
Ive killed 2 yotes with my cz452 sillouette and remington cyclones at 60-80yds, neither one went farther than 50-70 yds with a bullet behind the shoulder, The little rimfire will do it and we all know it ,I dont recomend it though and now use a properly loaded .223 cz 527 with 55gr speer blitzkings and it dumps em right quick, there is nothing marginal about it up to about 225-250 yds. just make sure you can put the bullet in the boiler room.
 
maybe you need to try some 55 gr Nosler BT and practice up on your shooting, as they seem to work well for me, even on wolf in my 223
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BIGREDD said:
The guy specifically asked what we think... should the people with experience on the topic not post at all. Or should we give advice and then not qualify it with our own experience. Or let the poster guess as to the veracity of the answers?:confused:

How about this... lets just randomly question other posters motives and f**k the thread up completely!

I cannot answer as to the others motives Joe but I don't think I am better than anyone else here. If I had a superiority complex I would never admit to wounding animals with a .22 rimfire.:redface:

Nothing personal Joe...;)
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How about this BR... The poster specifically asked what we thought. We, meaning guys like you who have tried it, could respond with what your personal experiences were, and leave it up to him whether he should try it or not. That way, on the off chance that he is better than you,;) he may have better results at the very same experiment.

Were you pointing your finger at me? Why you......
 
I would take the shot if I had the gun in hand and the yote was close but I would not hunt coyotes with a 22lr nowadays just because of the lack of range, nevermind the knockdown power at extended range.
 
joe-nwt said:
How about this BR... The poster specifically asked what we thought. We, meaning guys like you who have tried it, could respond with what your personal experiences were, and leave it up to him whether he should try it or not. That way, on the off chance that he is better than you,;) he may have better results at the very same experiment.

Were you pointing your finger at me? Why you......
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I don't understand why you insist on hijacking this thread with these foolish rejoinders Joe.:confused:
90% of the responders are agreed that a .22 rim-fire is not a good choice for coyotes. Most all of them have shot coyotes with .22 rim-fires and agree that the results make it a poor choice.
The bottom line here is that the poster asked for advice... he obviously wanted honest answers. If he just wanted to be left alone to experiment he would have done so without posing the question.
My conscience is clear... I answered with what I believe to be the truth.

As far as anyone being "way better than me" I guarantee that is true... but I take solace in the fact that it is not you.:p
 
BIGREDD said:
I don't understand why you insist on hijacking this thread with these foolish rejoinders Joe.:confused:
90% of the responders are agreed that a .22 rim-fire is not a good choice for coyotes. Most all of them have shot coyotes with .22 rim-fires and agree that the results make it a poor choice.
The bottom line here is that the poster asked for advice... he obviously wanted honest answers. If he just wanted to be left alone to experiment he would have done so without posing the question.
My conscience is clear... I answered with what I believe to be the truth.

As far as anyone being "way better than me" I guarantee that is true... but I take solace in the fact that it is not you.:p
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Hijacking??:confused: I suggested in my last post that he try it for himself. But I guess my opinion is not as important as yours.

Don't bother responding, I'll #### off now.
 
Lets look at ballistics.

40Gr velocitor at 100 yrds velocity 1084FPS, energy in ft-lbs 104.

40Gr Silver tip from .223 rem at 100 yrds 3166FPS, energy in ft-lbs 891.

As you can see the .22LR is kinda weak for yotes.
 
All ammunition has its place ;
375 H&H
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22LR , HV
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.223 - 22-250 ....
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joe-nwt said:
Hijacking??:confused: I suggested in my last post that he try it for himself. But I guess my opinion is not as important as yours.

Don't bother responding, I'll f**k off now.
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Never tell me what to do again... I will hit your reboot button every chance I get. No such thing as a free lunch Joe.... suck it up.:D

Seriously ...you inferred that my opinion was unsolicited and without merit, also that my attitude was somehow condescending in nature. What did you think I wuz gonna do turn off my puter and go beat my dog?:confused:

I think that your suggestion that he go shoot coyotes with a .22 as an experiment is bad advice Joe. Not because you chose to take a shot at me to high-light your opinion but only because it is just plain bad advice.:(
 
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