Very low twist rate

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I'm looking at getting my first lever action rifle, leaning towards .44Mag as I'm already set up in that caliber.

I'm seeing rates like 1:38". I've never heard of such low twist rates. What kind of bullet will that kind of barrel stabilize? Will I be able to use the full range of common .44Mag bullet weights, ie 200 to 300gr?
 
That's about right. I've never owned one, but I've heard guys talk about it, and it's not very fresh in the mind. The problem I've heard with rifles in .44 Mag is due to the twist rates There were rifles made that wouls ony stabilize the dinky 180 to 240 grain bullets. Rifles so purchased, were tried with the big 300+ grain bullets. I think they had a slower rate than that. This was likely to make them more compatable with a pistol in .44 Mag using the same load. I don't think a 300 gr bullet would be fun to shoot uness you were hunting. The slower twists could not stabilize the heavier bullet and longer range shots suffered. It seems like they have increased the twist rates for a heavy bullet which make the .44 Mag a much better hunting round. Check your local game laws, there may be cartridge length restrictions like in Alberta.

For it's weight, the .44's are a shorter bullet so you don't have to turn them as fast as say my .45-90 with a 535 gr bullet needs about a 1 in 16" twist, and coversly, my 7mm-08 needs a 1 in 9" rate for a shorter bullet (140 gr) due to having less rotating mass. There is a twist rate formula, and I know I have it somewhere in a stack of books. You plug in bullet length, diameter, and weight, and get out the optimum twist rate. The industry standard twists are normally very close unless you want to do some wildcatting. It's all about maintaining the gyroscopic stability. Just contact the manufacturers of the rifles you are interested in and someone there can help you. It might take some doing though. From all accounts I've heard, the .44 does make a dandy short range bush cartridge.
 
The Hornady reloading manual lists 44mag rifle loads with bullets from 180gr to 300gr. One of the nice things about the Hornady manuals is that they list details about the test rifle used, in this case, Ruger carbine, 18", 1 in 38 twist barrel. They also uasually specify if a certain bullet wieght is not suitable for slower twist rates.

Jim
 
Thanks guys. I should've checked with Greenhill before posting. According to his formula, the ideal bullet length for a 1/38" twist would be 0.726", which is, give or take a thou, the length of some 240 gr. hard cast lead SWC I have here.

I guess that twist rate isn't unusual after all, it just struck me as odd when I saw it.

Wonder what kinda twist my S&W model 29 has...
 
My Model 29 with the old 10 5/8" silhouette barrel with the 4 postion front sight is 1 in 20. That would be to stabilize the big 300 grainers. I think that might be the standard twist rate for all 29's. If you check with S&W they would be able to tell you.
 
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