Falconflyer
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That's a really good idea but at my home club where I do all of my volunteering, most members are life time and don't pay annual dues.
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That's a really good idea but at my home club where I do all of my volunteering, most members are life time and don't pay annual dues.
My former club used to offer a membership discount for volunteer labor, but it became too difficult to monitor. Some people would show up at a work party late, and leave early and some would stand around and do nothing but socialize and then they became upset if they were not credited with their hours. 9ther people would clam that they spent time working when nobody else was there. We finally gave up on the idea, because of the hassle that resulted.
It's working good and smooth here.
If someone is coming out to a work party we give them the hours regardless of how hard he/she worked
We have a form for submitting hours that need to be signed off by the executive who is in charge of that event or work party etc.
So members are self responsible for submitting their hours or signing in at events etc.
Nothing submitted means no hours awarded.
No pro rated crap, it's all or nothing. We had only a few members #####ing and yes we had some leave after introducing this but the club is better off with those people gone.
Within a year we were back at the same amount of members so it was a good purge of whiners and lazy members lol.
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It's working good and smooth here.
If someone is coming out to a work party we give them the hours regardless of how hard he/she worked
We have a form for submitting hours that need to be signed off by the executive who is in charge of that event or work party etc.
So members are self responsible for submitting their hours or signing in at events etc.
Nothing submitted means no hours awarded.
No pro rated crap, it's all or nothing. We had only a few members #####ing and yes we had some leave after introducing this but the club is better off with those people gone.
Within a year we were back at the same amount of members so it was a good purge of whiners and lazy members lol.
I guess that I just don't see the value in having someone stand around and do nothing and even distract those, that did come to work.
We have not been in this situation, nobody just stands around.
Some people just work harder than others but that's ok.
For us it really works, lots of things get done now and it really helped changing the atmosphere from "someone else will do it" into "everyone is helping out"
You know people that don't volunteer are not necessarily bad people. In the past, I've volunteered at the kids schools - the dog club - the gun club - search and rescue and more. Just no time for it now. Still like to shoot though.
That's right and they all have their reasons (work, kids, sport, other hobbies, etc) not to show up when work needs to be done or for executive positions but at some point the club doesn't function properly anymore.
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I agree completely, you don't know what those people may be volunteering at some where else, maybe they volunteer regularly at a charity or something and this is their way to wind down, you just don't know. For me, I volunteer lots of hours at my home club but I belong to a couple more gun clubs, one is a "run for profit" family operation and the other one uses some volunteer help but I don't lift a finger there because I know that if I do it once then I'll be as busy with it as the other one. I think that the hours I put in at the one is enough for two!
True, but when someone doesn't look at the calender, and shows up to shoot, when a work party is going on, and then leaves, because they came to shoot, not work, they obviously had some time to help out.
Maritime Storm
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Their not all like that here, but it is quickly heading that way, in all fairness through a 13-18 station course does require a pile of labour to set, fill and score.
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Yes it does but there is also good money in it for the club which they need in order to survive! Our club started out as primarily a trap club but they make far more money throwing sporting clay's targets than they ever did throwing trap targets. To be truthful, working casino's is what has allowed our club to build a new club house and purchase all the machines required to do sporting but if that all stopped happening tomorrow then I think it could survive on the sporting revenue where it wouldn't if we still only had trap and skeet. Running casino's require volunteer labor as well though.
goosegetter
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- south of Hamilton
I am not sure how you can pay members to work? if your club is not for profit, it is specifically prohibited to have members financially benefit from any work performed at the club ! check out CRA and the not for profit act
In what post have you read that members get paid?
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
That would be post #8
There is nothing in the corporate non profit act that says you can't have employees. We have employees at our club that happen to be members. They pay taxes and have deductions on there income from the club. Ask your club accountant, it's just the way you do business in Canada. Nothing shady about running a club the proper way. It works for us and that's how we will continue to operate. It's called being transparent to your members, they have a right to know how the club operates. After all it is a member owned club.
