volunteers vs paid workers at matches

grassy knoll

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interesting debate coming out of the Ontario provincials, whether paying helpers at matches would make the match run smoother than having volunteers help out

I ran a few matches and relied heavily on volunteers, I tried to give them all a big thank you at the end of the match, all the burgers they could eat and cool water during the day, which is exactly what I got and all that I expected.

Some do give more to the cause than others but I believe that each volunteer gives as much as they feel they can or should.

If somebody thought that they shouldn't have to help at a match and wants to pay somebody to patch for them, I say - Fine, bring your own caddy and work it out between yourselves.
 
Well at a couple of matches I had to patch my own targets. So personally I would rather pay somebody to do it. IT seems to vary, some people always patch no matter what and are really good...some dont patch at all.... I gotta ask why shouldnt I be able to sit down at least once during the day when others are sitting on their ass all the time?

Whats 5 extra bucks if it speeds things up and allows more time for relaxing and socializing?
 
If someone on your squad isn't patching...do what I do...hand them a stack of patches...and walk down range to start patching...

I guarentee they will follow you.
 
Quigley said:
If someone on your squad isn't patching...do what I do...hand them a stack of patches...and walk down range to start patching...

I guarentee they will follow you.
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Amen!

I dislike the idea of paid range staff in principle. The only match I've ever shoot where the range staff were paid, is the Bianchi Cup. There it works well, but for $300USD enterance, and a crack at $10,000+ for top prize, plus a very generous prize table, it's a compromise I'm comfortable with.
 
Define 'paid'. A lot of clubs let the volunteers shoot the match for free and feed them which is an incentive to RO, help out etc.

Patching on your squad is just common curtesy and should be de rigeur. I also try to make a point of thanking the RO's before buggering off at the end of the match.

Personally if someone is going to burn a whole day or more of their time to run a match I shoot at then they deserve whatever they get in return in my book.
 
As an RO I can seriousily say that if competitors don't patch then I will go sit down and not RO. When guys say what is is the hold up I say YOU NOT PATCHING.

It just goes to show that patchers are just as vital as RO's and vise versa.

Volunteers are the life blood and future of this sport, when they are gone the sport is gone>

JMHO
 
You shoot, you patch.. it's simple, and part of the sport. Everyone should do it. Those in our squad who didn't never ended up getting the notices of practices or invited as squad members to the matches. They got the point. It's a team event as well.. people patching should also me making sure the targets are scored properly, and brass is picked up.

It makes the match/practice run a LOT faster which everyone wants..
 
Bartledan said:
You don't patch, you don't shoot. Make it a rule, or at least a match poilcy, and find a way to give it some teeth.
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It's a policy here in BC. It still doesn't stop people from shooting in the morning and sneaking away in the afternoon or vice versa (i.e. showing up late in the morning and then trying to shoot in the afternoon).

When this happens, we give them a DNF and toss their scores. Even this still doesn't prevent shooters from avoiding the work...

There is now talk of DQ'ing shooters who skip their designated work requirement (Rule 10.6 Unsportsmanlike Conduct). Here in BC, if you get DQ'd twice in a season you are put on probation for a year. A third DQ requires the shooter to retake their BB.
 
I have only been shooting for a while now and I see a lot of this. As it goes it seems to be the "new" shooters that do most of the patching.

I certainly would not want anyone to get DQed over it though.
 
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