Vortex 2.5-10-32 PST or Zeiss 2x10x42 HD5 ?

Brianma65 said:
that's exactly what I'm looking for but I'm guessing it's in the$2000 ballpark. That's a lot of coin for the type of shooting I do.
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I think they are around $1400.

Also, at 200 yards it won't make a difference on what you get. Another option is the Leupold Mark AR, as you can get a pre-marked turret to do exactly what you are looking for. Replacement turrets - custom engraved to your specs - can also be had for cheap - IIRC $55 each.
 
Brianma65 said:
ok I get it, they can be set for.223. To bad they couldn't be more exact. Like 53g superformance as that is what I'll be reloading.
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It is exact....go to the link I provided and select your factory ammunition or your handload and the calculator does the rest.
 
1899 said:
I think they are around $1400.

Also, at 200 yards it won't make a difference on what you get. Another option is the Leupold Mark AR, as you can get a pre-marked turret to do exactly what you are looking for. Replacement turrets - custom engraved to your specs - can also be had for cheap - IIRC $55 each.
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all I could find was a 1x4 or 5 , I want a little more magnification ...
 
sheephunter said:
It is exact....go to the link I provided and select your factory ammunition or your handload and the calculator does the rest.
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looks like, what I'm looking for, can't access the site fr my iPhone though. Try later when I get home. After reading epoxys' post , I'm now thinking a little more mag....lol .
 
I have a 2.5x10x44 PST on a 223 Tikka Varmint, its SFP but not a handicap at all as the scope is only 10X max and is on that setting when taking a precision shot (from a rest). Its couple hundred less than the 2.5x10x32 FFP. The 223 Rem is pretty good to 600yards and a challenge after that to 1000yds, the scope has been to 1100yds many times on a 300WM and 10X is OK at that distance. You will be well served with the Vortex, I like to range then dial, don't care for the drop in distances on the dial, to many variables at long range to be reliable.
 
BCBRAD said:
I have a 2.5x10x44 PST on a 223 Tikka Varmint, its SFP but not a handicap at all as the scope is only 10X max and is on that setting when taking a precision shot (from a rest). Its couple hundred less than the 2.5x10x32 FFP. The 223 Rem is pretty good to 600yards and a challenge after that to 1000yds, the scope has been to 1100yds many times on a 300WM and 10X is OK at that distance. You will be well served with the Vortex, I like to range then dial, don't care for the drop in distances on the dial, to many variables at long range to be reliable.
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when you dial, you have to remember how many clicks or do you have predetermined settings on your dial? I'd like a dial that matches my bullit, if I range it at 300 yards , then just turn the dial to a 300 yard setting , shoot , then dial back to what the rifle was zeroed at. I'm sure I read some where , that you can get custom dials for that. Just not sure if zeiss or vortex has them.
 
Brianma65 said:
when you dial, you have to remember how many clicks or do you have predetermined settings on your dial? I'd like a dial that matches my bullit, if I range it at 300 yards , then just turn the dial to a 300 yard setting , shoot , then dial back to what the rifle was zeroed at. I'm sure I read some where , that you can get custom dials for that. Just not sure if zeiss or vortex has them.
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I just make a card up and stick to my rifle, eg: my 75gr A-Max load when zeroed at 109 yards (that's 100m) at 200yards I come up 1.4 on the moa dial, 250 yards is 2.4, 570 yards is 11.7, and there are indicators all the way up from your zero, if coyote is on the menu then then your really only concerned with greater than 200 yard distances so in increments of 50yds out to say 400yards you need only 4 numbers to remember or a small cheat sheet taped to your rifle, for my application it would be for 250yds 2.4, 300yds 3.6 , 350yds 4.9, and 400 yds 6.3 moa up. you can go finer than that and as far out as you want. If you change loads make a new sheet up. The Vortex web site has all the soft ware to do it easily.
 
Thanks for all the great info guys , I'll look through the zeiss and vortex , again tommorow , I'm gonna get a custom dial or reticle. Both on the same scope would be awesome. ( reticle for .223 or dial for .223 is what I mean by custom)
 
The only issue with custom etched reticles or engraved turrets is that if you ever change your load, shoot in opposite temperature extremes or change elevation significantly they are no longer accurate. Turrets are relatively inexpensive to replace but reticles are not.
 
sheephunter said:
The only issue with custom etched reticles or engraved turrets is that if you ever change your load, shoot in opposite temperature extremes or change elevation significantly they are no longer accurate. Turrets are relatively inexpensive to replace but reticles are not.
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Ya that's what I kids thought, maybe a zeiss with a .223 reticle then?
 
Brianma65 said:
Ya that's what I kids thought, maybe a zeiss with a .223 reticle then?
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There is no such thing as a .223 reticle in the Zeiss...there is a reticle that fits well within the ballistic profile of the .223 and that of many other cartridges. The magnification my be adjusted to fine tune the sub tension on the crosshairs to match your specific load. If you change loads or elevations, temperatures, etc, you can tweak the magnification to compensate. The link to the calculator I gave you does all the calculations.
 
sheephunter said:
There is no such thing as a .223 reticle in the Zeiss...there is a reticle that fits well within the ballistic profile of the .223 and that of many other cartridges. The magnification my be adjusted to fine tune the sub tension on the crosshairs to match your specific load. If you change loads or elevations, temperatures, etc, you can tweak the magnification to compensate. The link to the calculator I gave you does all the calculations.
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Ya I'm having trouble with the link, keeps telling me to try again later.
When you say adjust the magnification , you mean you just turn the magnification dial ,in small increments ?
 
Your primary crosshair is zeroed at 200 yards. It can be used at any magnification and zero will not change. Your secondary, yardage-indicated crosshairs only work on one specific magnification. That magnification is determined by velocity, bullet BC, temp, elevation and a host of variables. The calculator calculates that magnification for you. If you change any of the variable you recalculate and use a new magnification. With the proper reticle, magnification will be near maximum. This way your secondary crosshairs remain yardage indicated regardless of load. So number 3=300, 4=400 and so on. For close range-shooting there is nothing to remember and you can shoot at any magnification and for long range you simply dial to the appropriate magnification as given to you by the calculator.
 
sheephunter said:
Your primary crosshair is zeroed at 200 yards. It can be used at any magnification and zero will not change. Your secondary, yardage-indicated crosshairs only work on one specific magnification. That magnification is determined by velocity, bullet BC, temp, elevation and a host of variables. The calculator calculates that magnification for you. If you change any of the variable you recalculate and use a new magnification. With the proper reticle, magnification will be near maximum. This way your secondary crosshairs remain yardage indicated regardless of load. So number 3=300, 4=400 and so on. For close range-shooting there is nothing to remember and you can shoot at any magnification and for long range you simply dial to the appropriate magnification as given to you by the calculator.
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Got it ,thanks
 
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