Vortex Scopes

The strike eagle and viper LPVO's have been used in combat in small numbers however I would prefer something better such as american or german made if cost was no issue.
 
I have both a DB Tactical 4-16x44 on a .223 and a Viper PST gen2 5-25x50 on A 6.5 CM. Both have served me well. The glass in the Viper is certainly clearer, the turrets have a much better feel and it has zero stop. The DB is IMO, a great scope for $500. The glass is surprising good for the price , and I really like the EBR 2 reticle. Works fine for the distances I shoot with the .223. The only complaints is both the parallax adjustment and the magnification ring are quite stiff. I added a throw lever to the mag ring, which helped.
 
Wigth any scope manufacturer that makes different grades of scopes, I tend to avoid the lower end versions and stick to the higher end models. Leupold, Vortex, all of them. With Vortex I use Viper and Razor, wasn't really impressed by the Diamond Back line.

I've sent more Leupold scopes in for warranty service than any other brand, but I do own many Leupolds too. I did send a Viper Gen 1 back for service as it wouldn't hold a very good zero after about 850 rounds of 50 BMG.

Diamondback vs Viper would probably come down to what I wanted to do with the rifle. If you are shooting competitions or hunting where that one shot really counts, then I would get a higher end model. If you are just having fun at the range and/or it's a low recoil cartridge then maybe a Diamondback would be fine.
 
FTGV said:
I have both a DB Tactical 4-16x44 on a .223 and a Viper PST gen2 5-25x50 on A 6.5 CM. Both have served me well. The glass in the Viper is certainly clearer, the turrets have a much better feel and it has zero stop. The DB is IMO, a great scope for $500. The glass is surprising good for the price , and I really like the EBR 2 reticle. Works fine for the distances I shoot with the .223. The only complaints is both the parallax adjustment and the magnification ring are quite stiff. I added a throw lever to the mag ring, which helped.
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I would echo this statement as that was my experience with my Vipers and Diamondbacks. The Diamondback Tactical has paralax adjustment (as does the Viper) where as the standard Diamondback doesn't, something to consider if that's important to you. The Vipers and Diamondback Tactical also have the option of MRAD or MOA reticles, where as the standard Diamondback has only MOA reticles.

*The Vortex haters were brought out on this one.
 
I have three Vortex scopes and have been happy with all three. The glass on the Viper PST is clearly superior to the glass on the Viper HST and my Strike Eagle 1 - 6. I have yet to need the warranty but Vortex did send me parts missing in a used scope (CRS shims) that I bought and they were fantastic to deal with. I own Nikons and a Burris as well. I've never spent $3000 on a scope but if I did it would need to be spectacular as it is the Vortex scopes have been good out to 500 yds for me.

My Porsche is way more car than my Honda! I'll continue to own both...
 
jetfixer said:
I would echo this statement as that was my experience with my Vipers and Diamondbacks. The Diamondback Tactical has paralax adjustment (as does the Viper) where as the standard Diamondback doesn't, something to consider if that's important to you. The Vipers and Diamondback Tactical also have the option of MRAD or MOA reticles, where as the standard Diamondback has only MOA reticles.

*The Vortex haters were brought out on this one.
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Is the Diamondback Tactical too much scope for a 22lr CZ? Looking for advice for a future setup. Thanks
 
There’s no such thing as Too much scope! That said it’s more a question of what’s the gun going to be used for? If it’s a hunting gun for small game then a low powered variable 2-7 would work nicely. Bench shooting only then 24x or higher. If you’re playing in any of the PRS then FFP with lots of variable power 5-25x50 or bigger. It’s more what suits your need and intended purpose.
 
Bad Bob said:
Not my fault that I tried Vortex scopes and they couldn`t cut it so I don`t use them, don`t drive a dodge either. Back to Jim`s question, the Viper is better than the Diamond Back , but I still wouldn`t own one. What`s with this "feature" thing? If the scope is no good, it`s no good doesn`t matter how many "features " it has. You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig. By the way I own several various brands of which Leupolds are the least expensive, I simply stated that I believe that a Leupold is better that a Vortex. Those that feel they have to defend them, go ahead. If you were to bash a Zeiss or Nightforce or whatever, I would simply reply ,"so don`t buy them anymore" and not feel compelled to defend them.
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Better than a cheap Tasco. If found better glass, more features and a lot more scope with Riton. Best advice is if you like the scope buy the scope.
 
previously had a couple of Vipers, some friends had diamondbacks and others.

I'd say the difference in glass quality between the Viper & Diamondback was about the same as the difference between the Diamondback and the Crossfire, if that helps you at all.

Personally, in vortex-land, I wouldn't go less than a Viper.
 
DarksideCam said:
Is the Diamondback Tactical too much scope for a 22lr CZ? Looking for advice for a future setup. Thanks
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I had a Diamondback Tactical 4-16 on my Anschutz Silhouette .22lr and it was good for shooting targets and varmint out to 100m. Pushing .22lr's to greater distances has recently become more popular, in which case the 6-24 might be better suited if you want the added magnification.
 
I've had a few Diamondbacks and I think they are baaadddd. I have Vipers and Vipers HD on most of my hunting rifles and a Strike Eagle on a rimfire. I don't do target shooting so for my eyes, Vipers are very good hunting scopes.
 
Gonna need more info from the OP. There are a lot of scopes in both lines, and the more expensive diamondbacks are probably very similar to the cheaper 1" tube vipers.

I have a 1" tube 3-9x40 viper that I am quite fond of, has held up well through 5 years of hunting across two different rifles. I happen to have my buddies rifle sitting beside me, with a Leupold Freedom on it. In the bright sunlight I can't tell any meaningful difference between the two, I am going to try and remember to check again at twilight.
 
I ran a 6-24 DBT on a CZ 457 MTR 22lr for several years, took it out to 200m regularly. Never had an issue with the scope, it tracked reliably. But for shooting long range the glass is mediocre compared to the competition (Arken EPL4, SH4, EP5).
I replaced my DBT with a Bushnell MPED, night and day improvement in glass.
 
Some one mentioned US sites for better reviews on Vortex. Your going to take that to the bank after a recent election. Friend of mine does quality control in a Scope factory in the Philippines and they don't make Vortex anymore due to so many returns. A couple of others she mentioned same problem. Vortex is a cheap scope with a good warranty is their selling point.
 
wheels said:
previously had a couple of Vipers, some friends had diamondbacks and others.

I'd say the difference in glass quality between the Viper & Diamondback was about the same as the difference between the Diamondback and the Crossfire, if that helps you at all.

Personally, in vortex-land, I wouldn't go less than a Viper.
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After taking a look at the Diamondback tactical I wasn’t impressed with the glass. Maybe the Venom 3-15*44 a better option at 22 lr. I will like to see 22 holes at 100 yards so def need a bit more magnification than a 3*9
 
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