Vortex Strikefire died quickly -edited - Replacement working fine

Brutus said:
Boy you had a lemon friend.
I've seen nightforce scopes in F-class shooting. Never seen a vortex/razor on the same high power line.
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I know I'm not the only one who uses a Viper in F-class; I've shot with others who use one as well. Not all of us can afford NF or S&B, and the Viper has served me well for the last 3 years.
I'm sometimes tempted to think that a better scope will make me a better shooter, but the reality is, I need better wind reading skills first.
 
Twisted said:
Good on you.

The people I work with, who have a good handle on optics, don't seem to think that Vortex is even worth mentioning. That's good enough for me to look elsewhere, as their first-hand experience with a wide range of optics is invaluable.

Again... As I have stated multiple times: If it works for you, and you are happy with it, all the more power to you.
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Someday if possible I would like to have the chance to meet with you and the people you work with to let you get your hands on some Vortex product. I have quite a collection now, that covers the entire line that they offer. I am not trying to make you a born again believer, just give you the opportunity to form an opinion based on first hand experience. I am just outside of Kingston, look me up if you are ever down this way and interested in doing some fun shooting!
 
Crashman said:
Someday if possible I would like to have the chance to meet with you and the people you work with to let you get your hands on some Vortex product. I have quite a collection now, that covers the entire line that they offer. I am not trying to make you a born again believer, just give you the opportunity to form an opinion based on first hand experience. I am just outside of Kingston, look me up if you are ever down this way and interested in doing some fun shooting!
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I'll happily take you up on that, and get in touch if I'm ever down that way for long enough to do some shooting. Thanks for the offer.
 
One thing Vortex openly states is that they are not trying to win any Government contracts. They wanted to make an RDS that was better than the $50 ones and cheaper than the $400+ ones.
 
Twisted said:
I really don't want to get into this, in detail. But most of my optics are used operationally, and I need to trust my life to them. Even the ones that I use recreationally, I want to have 100% confidence in.

Vortex is not on the list of optics that I'd use - whether or not their expensive models are good. For the price of some of the high end ones, I can get a NF or S&B. Why would I? Reputation.

I'm perfectly willing to accept that Vortex makes adequate scopes for SOME purposes. Even hunting animals. And I'm also willing to accept that their customer service is outstanding. What I am NOT willing to accept, is that their optics may fail when used in highly adverse circumstances.
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Gotcha. ANY scope could fail under adverse circumstances. Some people pay for reputation (likely the reason that Leupold sells many of their low-end scopes), others pay for performance (aka Vortex Viper).

If you can show me a S&B or Nightforce that weighs 14oz to go on my light-weight hunting rifle, I'd be most interested. As a hunting guide in grizzly country, I too have trusted my life to my riflescope. It's not uncommon to come across 15-20 grizz in a season in certain areas where I've guided, and I've found that EVERY manufaturer puts out the odd lemon. Granted, the high-end makers put out fewer lemons than cheaper alternatives, but some scopes fail, regardless of price or make.

What I've found to work for me, is to use a scope that I have a personal track record with, for life or death scenarios. If I'm running the risk of having to stop a charging grizz, a Bushnell or Burris scope that has held zero and worked flawlessly for me for 10 years or more will get the nod over a new, unproven, and more expensive scope every time, even a S&B or NF.
 
Jordan Smith said:
Gotcha. ANY scope could fail under adverse circumstances. Some people pay for reputation (likely the reason that Leupold sells many of their low-end scopes), others pay for performance (aka Vortex Viper).

If you can show me a S&B or Nightforce that weighs 14oz to go on my light-weight hunting rifle, I'd be most interested. As a hunting guide in grizzly country, I too have trusted my life to my riflescope. It's not uncommon to come across 15-20 grizz in a season in certain areas where I've guided, and I've found that EVERY manufaturer puts out the odd lemon. Granted, the high-end makers put out fewer lemons than cheaper alternatives, but some scopes fail, regardless of price or make.

What I've found to work for me, is to use a scope that I have a personal track record with, for life or death scenarios. If I'm running the risk of having to stop a charging grizz, a Bushnell or Burris scope that has held zero and worked flawlessly for me for 10 years or more will get the nod over a new, unproven, and more expensive scope every time, even a S&B or NF.
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I think that this is still largely a difference in requirements, for -very- different applications. While a charging bear is a stressful event, I'm sure, it isn't the same as having heavily armed two-legged people trying to cause you harm.

The environment and abuse that firearms/optics are subjected to are quite different, based on both of our respective requirements/occupations.

If the Vortex optics work for your chosen application (which it seems they do), then fantastic.
 
My friend bought Vortex red dot. Put it on his CZ 858 and went to do tactical rifle course. Vortex died after first magazine. Good thing he had iron sights.
 
He said he was gonna get his money back, but he is not sure if he is going to buy another Vortex. He is looking instead into a small magnification scope. I think he mentioned IOR.
 
My CQA is just a range plinker so I'll give the replacement a try.

The red dot only was surprisingly bright and I had to keep it on the 2nd lowest setting. It was an overcast BC winter day but still......
 
drache said:
I dropped one of my Vortex Strikefires on purpose and it worked fine. Someone else did and theirs broke but Votrex replaced it free of charge.

But you should read the torture test some guys over at AR15.com put these things through including setting one in the deep freeze. Passed all their testing.
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Did you drop the optic or drop the optic attached to the rifle?

The testing you mention is great, unfortunately not every copy is performing as well as those tested which is the problem.


TDC
 
Hokus Grey said:
Funny thing is, no one who has a perfectly functioning sight starts a thread about it. You only hear about the ones that fail and not the hundreds that are functioning.

Just the way of the world.
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There have been a couple threads started praising them but then the naysayers usually flood in saying their crapped out early. Generally it only takes one naysayer to turn someone's off from buying one.
 
One naysayer is insignificant, but if several people experience the same problem while the brand is new in the market place it can be seen as a trend.


Sure maybe only 5% ( who knows) are faulty but it's still relevant information to be posted.
 
Hokus Grey said:
Funny thing is, no one who has a perfectly functioning sight starts a thread about it. You only hear about the ones that fail and not the hundreds that are functioning.

Just the way of the world.
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I've read lot's of positive reviews ( more then negative I'd say)and these reviews have encouraged others to buy and try vortex.

Lately I've read about negative experiences as well which I am grateful for as even if it's relatively rare to have a failure I want to hear about it....
 
Can-down said:
One naysayer is insignificant, but if several people experience the same problem while the brand is new in the market place it can be seen as a trend.


Sure maybe only 5% ( who knows) are faulty but it's still relevant information to be posted.
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I spoke directly to Vortex about this and they claim less than 1% are faulty. It is amazing how much we hear about the 1%, and so little about the other 99%!
 
It's possible that their claim of less then 1% of their production being faulty is true but if somehow that 1 % ended up in one market it might represent a more then 1% failure.....plus some of these products are new so lets wait 5 years and see what the percentage is.

I just pulled 5% out of my ass

One angry or disappointed customer will do far more negative word of mouth advertising then 10 happy customers will do positive....
 
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