I figured that's what you did, and I did not mean to sound corrective. I was just trying to supply the info I had from Vortex. Yes, if by coincedence most of the defective product shows up in one market area it can give a negative feeling in that area for that product.
Vortex Strikefire died quickly -edited - Replacement working fine
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I figured that's what you did, and I did not mean to sound corrective. I was just trying to supply the info I had from Vortex. Yes, if by coincedence most of the defective product shows up in one market area it can give a negative feeling in that area for that product.
For many years men hunted other two legged bad guys with vastly inferior optics.Many were extremely successful . Any sight system can fail at any time. Just because it says Mil Spec and it costs 3 grand doesn't guarantee total reliability.
This is a fairly ignorant statement. They were also successful with bolt action rifles. Does that mean I should get a Lee-Enfield out of storage?
I agree that no optic is entirely immune to problems. But to hint that there's no difference between something like a Tasco, Bushnell, Vortex, and EoTech/Aimpoint is just plain wrong.
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My OP was never meant to imply that all Strikefires will fail. I just wanted to let the forum know about MY experience with MY Strikefire.
I like the scope, its low price, how it worked and how bright it was in daylight.
Maybe I just got a lemon. It happens. The strength of the Voretex warranty is apparent as a replacement was shipped as soon as contacted the retailer.
I like the scope, its low price, how it worked and how bright it was in daylight.
Maybe I just got a lemon. It happens. The strength of the Voretex warranty is apparent as a replacement was shipped as soon as contacted the retailer.
I think it's funny that people post that vortex (or any other budget brand) sucks and then talk about an eotech as the beacon of reliability. I've heard of and seen lots of them having intermittent failures due to battery contacts bending under recoil. As someone who has never fired a shot on a 2 way range but who has made a living all his adult life fixing things of all kinds is that #### breaks. If you are that worried have a back up. And if you're going to the sandbox odds are the .gov is paying anyways so make sure your BUIS are sighted in along with your RDS and don't worry.
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want to talk fail rate just ask any bushnell rep what the fail/return rate on any of their scopes in the 75-$200 price range.
When i was working for one store we had a large bin of them every month, these are just ones new in the box that i inspected myself, i cant tell you how many the customers cam back with after the 1st day of shooting and the scope craped out.
Not happy when i told them the ywould have to go to bushnell direct.
As for the TRS 25 we were buying then 6 or 8 at a time and sending back 1-2 units evey time, one shipment all 6 of the front lense were installed wrong.
Buy the best scope u have the money for, Vortex is a great value for its price, way better then anything on the market in canada at the same price point.
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When i was working for one store we had a large bin of them every month, these are just ones new in the box that i inspected myself, i cant tell you how many the customers cam back with after the 1st day of shooting and the scope craped out.
Not happy when i told them the ywould have to go to bushnell direct.
As for the TRS 25 we were buying then 6 or 8 at a time and sending back 1-2 units evey time, one shipment all 6 of the front lense were installed wrong.
Buy the best scope u have the money for, Vortex is a great value for its price, way better then anything on the market in canada at the same price point.
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Coming from you that means a lot!
Just tried out my replacement Strikefire red dot only.
It works fine, put 100 rounds of Fiochi ball downrange with it. No hiccups.
I can shoot a 1" centred group at 50 yards off the bench with it. 3" groups at 100 yards. The trigger on the CQA is still creepy after 200 rounds, I could do better if it improves with shooting. I forgot to bring the doubler duuhhh, that might have helped at 100 yards with the 4 MOA dot.
It holds its zero and was more than bright enough on an overcast BC day. I had it on its 2nd to lowest setting.
Overall I'm happy with the cheapass Strikefire. Lots of value in this RDS for the $.
Guess it's time to Drache-test the whole unit and throw it down the stairs.
It works fine, put 100 rounds of Fiochi ball downrange with it. No hiccups.
I can shoot a 1" centred group at 50 yards off the bench with it. 3" groups at 100 yards. The trigger on the CQA is still creepy after 200 rounds, I could do better if it improves with shooting. I forgot to bring the doubler duuhhh, that might have helped at 100 yards with the 4 MOA dot.
It holds its zero and was more than bright enough on an overcast BC day. I had it on its 2nd to lowest setting.
Overall I'm happy with the cheapass Strikefire. Lots of value in this RDS for the $.
Guess it's time to Drache-test the whole unit and throw it down the stairs.
Did I say it was?
No you didn't, but failing to replicate field conditions does not validate your findings, nor is it a fair comparison to other optics that are and have been tested while attached to the rifle(field conditions).
That's not saying much considering the lack of options in the same price range.
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Haterz will be haterz... it ain't no bombproof, you can't shoot it 200ft underwater, and it doesn't shoot death rays. But mine has been flawless.. it's 2000 rounds away from its shipping box, and it's running fine.
Guess what, it's the Gen I with the red/green dot...
Guess what, it's the Gen I with the red/green dot...
Validate what findings of mine? I stated that I dropped it on purpose and it still worked and then stated someone else dropped theirs and it didn't work but Vortex replaced it even though that isn't covered under warranty. I then talked about the torture tests that someone over at AR15.com put a Vortex RDS through.
I also fail to see how dropping it while attached to my rifle would make much more a difference. Either way it was dropped straight onto concrete.
I never said I was trying to replicate field conditions and I never stated the Strikefire was better or in the same class as an Aimpoint and I even stated Vortex has no wants for a government contract.
The warranty is only valid if the company exists. More importantly, I would sooner have an optic that doesn't fail, then have one that may need to be replaced frequently.
If you drop the optic attached to a rifle, it more closely simulates the conditions in which it will be used. I have never seen anyone make goods hits with an optic not attached to a firearm. Aimpoint and US Optics to mention two companies, either drop their optics(attached to rifles) right on the optic itself or in the case of US Optics use their scopes as baseball bats prior to proving they still hold zero. Does Vortex do the same or similar?
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So dropping the optic by itself isn't going to hit the ground the same as an optic attached to the rifle? The only difference I see is attached to the rifle their is most weight if dropped straight onto the optic and the fact there is a better chance of the rifle hitting the ground and taking most of the brunt of the drop.
As for if Vortex does it, who knows, why don't you ask them?
I never commented on how they do their testing, I only commented on the tested that OWNERS of said optics have done.
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Should have got a Bushnell instead 
