Vote: impact precision or defiance action
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How many field matches have you had them too ?? Just wanting to gauge the types of conditions you have had the 6 through...rain..mud..dry dust from open areas or covered canopyy in mountain type terrian ?? Not a lot shoot the US field matches and most feed back comes from under cover square range conditions with dont really count. Thanks
All of the above, I live in southern Alberta and shot in the dust, snow wind a lot, and like I said before it’s my opinion, there’s nothing wrong with the impact either it’s a very nice action and has some great features. Really can’t go wrong with either choice.
I have no doubt that it’s nasty stuff, probably similar the the crazy fine dust and dirt we get here, there’s no getting away from it no matter how hard you try. I guess we’ll see this summer.
Defiance gives you far more options, like specifying the MOA on the integrated rail.
You can't go wrong with either, or any of the premium, 700 clones IMO (Curtis, Bighorn, Surgeon, Kelbly's, etc.). One word of caution, the 737R is only available with a single firing pin size and it may not work for the caliber you have in mind. The boys down at Defiance will work with you spec your action out and reduce firing pin size if need be.
PS: Very happy with my Deviant Elite so far, but I don't have near enough testing through it yet.
PS: Very happy with my Deviant Elite so far, but I don't have near enough testing through it yet.
Small firing pin is not required in a 6.5x47 lapua. Some military was bushed back in the day and then it kinda seemed like it had to be ever since. Impact actions run a .068 thou firing pin and has no issues at all with there testing but their stuff is pretty straight as well so that helps and not compounds things like some other actions like factory Remington stuff which alot are built on and theirs are .075.
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I believe they adjust vertically, so you can get the optimum sear engagement. Too much sear engagement = very stiff and heavy bolt lift/close, too little = the firing assembly will not stay cocked.
Triggers such as the BnA Tacsport you can adjust the sear engagement, as well as they have replaceable sears of different heights to better suit different actions.
People love to talk about how an action "feels", but most don't understand how important the mating between the trigger group and firing assembly plays in that. A great action can feel subpar or even pretty sh*tty if not properly mated to a trigger.
One of the reasons why I love the BnA Tacsport triggers (besides how crisp and awesome they feel, and their adjustability) is the adjustability of the sear engagement and different sears available.
Interesting. Thanks that is a clever way to do it taking advantage of the angled seat-to-cocking piece contact.
Yes, aside from the primary extraction camming surfaces, the trigger timing makes the most difference to the feel of an action.
I must disagree with this statement - my 6Br feeds best out of my AW mag - both out of my MPA and my Manners T4, proper set of DBM depth is important but that is true for all mag fed set ups. I have a feeling this is one of those old "rules" that carries on through time. Frank G. hates the idea and his opinion carries far even if things have changed.
However, AICS do work great and magwell cut would not be a deciding factor for me.
I have run 3 deviants over the last 5 years. One lug galled at the 2016 snipers Hide Cup...there was a massive amount of rain..mud and grit. The raceway is prone
to binding when sand/grit is added to the mix. Dont get me wrong; Defiance makes a beautiful action and their machine work is excellent but the clearances are less and they dont seem to be as reliable in the field. I turned down the bolt body slightly on my Dasher and it has helped considerably. I still run a Deviant but I have more confidence in the Surgeon and will likely switch this spring...if I was getting another Defiance I would definitely have it nitrided; but last quote was 3-400 usd for that upgrade.
Didnt mean to hurt your feelings; too many people attach their ego to brand choices; all have their strengths and weaknesses. Sounds like you use your gear for more concrete pad range stuff under a roof...and that's fair enough. Ask your smith what I'm talking about...if he has any amount of experience he will be able to explain this to you.
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All actions will bind with enough junk in them. I know a shooter that had his AI bind.
Real solution is a rag and some hornady dry lube.
It all comea down to preferce. Brosseau would win with a Savage. Jake V. killed it with a Defiance and now a Curtis.
Pick one that tickles your bits and move on.
My Nitrided Hellfire (Deviant) will be here in a couple weeks so that is all I care about.
Real solution is a rag and some hornady dry lube.
It all comea down to preferce. Brosseau would win with a Savage. Jake V. killed it with a Defiance and now a Curtis.
Pick one that tickles your bits and move on.
My Nitrided Hellfire (Deviant) will be here in a couple weeks so that is all I care about.
