VZ 24 Pricing?

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Hi All,
I've got the chance to pick up a very nice and appears matching VZ 24, I'm not entirely sure what these things are going for. EE has prices all over the map, but I would assume less than the rather high tag of the k98s. I'm already loading 8x57, so would be an interesting grab for sure.
 
The VZ24 is a well made and well finished, built under license K98.

There are several factors to take into account.

Very nice isn't a condition that can be priced. Use your browser to ascertain how levels of condition are described.

All matching is good.

Is there an intact crest on the receiver ring?

Walnut or Beech stock?

Bore condition?

As mentioned, $600-$700 would be the appx value for a rifle in NRA VG condition.

Which nation bought/issued the rifle?

The VZ24 was known for its quality and was made for different nations all over the globe.

Some variants are worth more and some less.
 
The rarest ones are matching Czechoslovakian army with intact crests. Then the same non-matching. Then Romanian matching, then mismatched, and the least valuable are Romanian RC.

BTW, after WW1 in 2019 Mauser sold all its machinery to Czechs and they set up their own production of short Gw98, Vz24.

This is a quote from John Wall from k98kforum:

Colonel Sada's book "Czechoslovak Rifles and Machineguns" (1971) also describes the Brno-Mauser Oberndorf relationship, although in broader detail, it is available in English. (This is the book that was translated by the US Army in 1973 and has been floating around for years in xerox form.) The early years 1919-1922 of the Mauser-Brno relationship are not described in the detail that Franek goes into, but Sada does have a very interesting discussion of the Gewehr 98 technical/manufacturing drawing package that Brno bought from Oberndorf, knowing full well that Oberndorf Gewehr 98 components were not fully interchangeable. Sada also notes that between 1923 and 1925, Brno had to buy a second round of tooling to replace the Mauser Oberndorf tooling in order to precision manufacture interchangeable Mauser rifle components. Interesting stuff, especially the fact that the Oberndorf tooling did not yeild a high degree of component interchangeability.

It was not until 1925 or 1926 that Brno had completely retooled again and completely redone their drawings and procedures with precision manufacturing machines that it was able to fabricate a rifle (the Vz.24) that had 90%-95% reliably interchangeable components.
 
I wouldn’t say a VZ 24 with crest is particularly rare, uncommon yes, but not rare. Romanian VZ 24s with the crest intact would be the rarest variants, I have only seen one for sale in the time I have been collecting instead of the many rampant lions or even just brno marked rifles.

As to value, is it refurbished or non-refurbished? Which country used it? Is the crest intact? Is it matching? What is the condition? Very nice could mean a lot of different things. Assuming it is a refurbished rifle with crest scrubbed (most common) 400-800$ depending on who wants it. Main value would be in the bore as it would primarily be a shooter grade rifle.
 
Thanks for all the great Info. When i last had a look at it, the bluing was approx. 80%. It did have a very nice Czech crest (Rampant Lion) on the receiver, and was sitting in a walnut stock. Bore was Nice, clean and very crisp. Handled very nicely compared to some of the rougher K98k's i've shot. I will remember to grab a couple photos the next time I see it's owner
 
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Electro-pencil force matching and dull black re-blue points to it being a RC.

Also both stock and receiver SNs look force-matched too. Acceptance stamps are missing. Something is not right with this one.
 
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BlackVoid said:
Electro-pencil force matching and dull black re-blue points to it being a RC.

Also both stock and receiver SNs look force-matched too. Acceptance stamps are missing. Something is not right with this one.
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Even the reciever serial number has been restamped.

I don't believe it's an RC refurb though.

The RC rifles usually have that purple hue on the safety and extractor.

I have seen Yugoslav FTRs with similar number fonts. The serial number stamped into the side of the butt, rather than the underside would also indicate to me a Yugo refurb.

Because of the front sight protector, and the font of the receiver stamped serial # I would say it's a post war Czech FTR, likely under Soviet scrutiny.

I have a similar rifle, but mine has a laminated stock and a pressed/stamped trigger guard, all of which have been stamped with the same font as the numbers on the bolt and receiver. The only part on my rifle that is electropenciled is the safety.

The finish is shiny on the metal and all black, none of that RC FTR purple to be found anywhere.

It still has grease in the mechanism from the FTR and appears to have been fitted with a new barrel. It hasn't been shot since it left the armory.

If I were selling it, I would be asking $1200
 
I have a Yugo refurb of "axis ally unit" rifle (no stock swivel plug), mid 30s SN. Stock and receiver are untouched. Bolt is still in the white. SN is stamped on the bolt handle, not EP-ed.
 
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