vz 58 catastophic failure.

One of the lessons to take away from this is if the firearm you are using seems to be self-deassembling, stop and get it sorted before continuing.
 
One of the lessons to take away from this is if the firearm you are using seems to be self-deassembling, stop and get it sorted before continuing.

Wow really? It gave me no signs of "self-deassembling" so your statement is a little off. Perfectly function firearms do mis-fire so I that was what was going on.
 
The shell not blowing up......ok guys like I realize I am a noob on these forums but I am not an idiot in real life. Yes, the action was closed all the way. I repeat....Shot 20 rounds no issues. Shot 5 other rounds, lights strike on the first 4 and if you look at the primer the strikes get lighter and lighter on each one meaning? The barrel was slowly shifting forward(didn't realize this right away, thought it had something to do with hard surplus primers), so 25 rounds total, 20 fire, 4 light strike, and 1 almost blows. Opened the action, saw the barrel moved forward quarter inch, also the front hand guard was now loose with about a quarter inch play. Drove it right back to the store I bought it and returned it, its defective.

Good explanation. I could see that happening quite easily...... I'm glad it wasn't worse for you! Keep us informed
 
it would be very hard to detect ... especially in the beginning

at first i didn't like steel cases but jeez... this turns out to be a good thing
 
I'm glad to hear you are okay . Since it sounds like this will be covered by the manufacturer I hope you get a properly built gun this time and are able to enjoy it .
 
As I said before, I shot 25 rounds on a brand new gun. The 25th round ballooned due to the fact it being stuck in the extractor and the barrel being a quarter inch to far forward. The first 20 rounds went smooth, but was getting light strikes after. The 25th round shot cause it was stuck in the extractor but not far enough in the chamber. The bulge on the back of the casing was where it wasn't in the chamber all the way. As soon as that happened I drove back to the gun store to return it and tell them it almost maimed me. Didn't have time or even think to take pics I was all flustered. Check this out though.
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Wow , glad you werent hurt
 
So this was observed afterwards? "... The barrel had ended up shifting itself forward ".

If so, my apologies.

i would think everything was fine when he started shooting, as the fired ctg looks fine, and it began walking out as he shot the first 20. would be hard to observe this before he fired the gun as the bbl would have been in the correct position. very good reason to allways wear glasses as you just never know even with new new stuff
 
Well thats one for the cartridge collection!
Actually, the other case looks as though the neck is shorter than normal, as the shoulder has been fire-formed forward.
Can you post a photo of that case along side a new round?
 
Actually, the other case looks as though the neck is shorter than normal, as the shoulder has been fire-formed forward.
Can you post a photo of that case along side a new round?

I was going to say the same thing, I was just reading through all the other comments first, i'm suprised it wasn't brought up sooner.
 
That's fine, all my casings look like that...


Not.

Sh!t happens when you play with fire, glad you're ok. With any product, even the space shuttle, there is bound to be QC issues every now and then. Amazing what a steel case will take!
 
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