VZ-58s and more...FAQs are Post 1

Q: Considering this monster thread, what do you think of the VZ-58 type rifle?

  • It is a beauty as it comes, and a must have, since it drives Libs bonkers.

    Votes: 1,507 70.4%

  • It is best pimped out and dressed up, a far cry from an NDP convention.

    Votes: 407 19.0%

  • It is true it was the first cool gun in the Cdn. market for a long while, but I'll pass.

    Votes: 166 7.7%

  • It makes me think of snide remarks, as I am a gun snob and the 58 is affordable.

    Votes: 62 2.9%
  • Total voters
    2,142
smithsen said:
simply I wanted let you know that all that nice pics finished.
If I will find something new and would gain approval of source and will have enough time to scan and change pics and translate main idea of titles under pics I will publish it here but I suppose that in near future there will not be similar situation.

I like CGN and also this thread - thanks Deckard.
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Big thanks smithsen!!! Now how can we get some of those mod parts to Canada!!!! :D What is the source site?
 
source of parts

To answer MPI
"Big thanks smithsen!!! Now how can we get some of those mod parts to Canada!!!! What is the source site?"

problem is that some of them /green and also plastic/ are prototypes, other are small series or custom and several of them are out of production. I tried to contact my friends that were living closer to those producers but there is also another problem - some parts are considered to be "vojensky material", and I was said that any exporting company would need several permits to export from CZ. Individual can buy it but there are transport costs etc. and because of "vojensky material" categorization certain producers are are waiting for big order from army to begin production.

several links were posted on CGN in past by me or other CGNers - for example
http://www.oktarget.cz/obj_cz.htm
http://www.oktarget.cz/prislusenstvi_en.html
http://zbrane.webz.cz/1.html
http://www.zbrane.cz/Montaze-typu-weaver-vypis-kategorie-7.html
http://www.zbrane.cz/Doplnky-pro-SA-58-vypis-kategorie-8.html
etc.
 
We need 40,000 views, so.....

58hi3.jpg


I wonder who made that brake? ;)
 
see my message No. 973

Red Star said:
were did you get this stock set featured in page 97?
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probably question for me.
See titles to pictures and also my message No. 973 - number is in right upper corner.
As soon as I would get some new info about source where to buy some of those nice things for VZ-58 and other-fan, I will post new message here.
"vojensky material" means military equipment that is not available to public only military, police and sometimes LE. There are required special and expensive procedures for export and import of "vojensky material".
 
Red Star said:
Over a stock set? wTF? I don't think so.. Yet maybe.. This is the first time I have seen such a stock set.. Why aren't the Brugger & Thomets restricted then? weird.
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#961 is plastic prototype.

I was describing Czech and Slovak laws not Canadian.

smgcon´s description is good.

I was inspired by another member to make some changes here.
 
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Here's a quick cellphone snap of mine - more hi-res detailed pics to follow.

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Not a great quality pic but the colour is exactly what I was going for, it's got a bit of green-blue so it goes really nicely with the metal.

I'll post a pic of me all decked out at TacRifle on Sunday...
 
pontcanna said:
Does anyone else get a box saying:

"Connecting to iis.infratek.com"

every time they click on this thread?

What's going on?
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Yes, asking for logon and pwd...mods, is this a tech problem or a hack?
 
iis.infratek.com is my server and there is no default web site running on it. I just place pictures there with direct links. iis.infratek.com is one of my servers ….. there is no default web site running on it, therefore if you try to access is directly you get the logon screen. I place pictures in virtual directories with direct links. So to view a image you have to type in the exact address like this one from my recent trip to Calgary where I took my friends shooting my 858s
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cheers

ps: nice work on your stock homesick ...

Red Star not a PHP driven server .....more like ASP
 
Red Star said:
Where did you get your stock set?
If you modded it what did you use to paint it with?
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If that's directed to me the stock is all original, sanded down and painted. I was looking at several options for refinishing and was leaning towards an oil-based paint with several coats of hard satin verathane to make it hard and protected but not shiny.

After reading around a bit and talking to a few people I decided to use melamine at the last minute; the same stuff they use for countertops. It takes about 16-20 hrs between coats and quite a while to fully cure but it cures ultra-hard and very smooth because it has plasticizers (I think that's what it is) in it.

We'll see how it holds up to regualr wear and tear - the TacRifle match at TMSA on Sunday should tell the tale. I think, based on what's been said by several professional industrial/commercial painters I talked to that it will hold up really well. I'll definitely keep y'all posted.

If it doesn't then I will just sand it down again and do something else. Maybe someone will have gotten around to produce some sort of aluminum handguards or something by that time.

Did anyone else that refinished their stock find that the dust from sanding smelled lethally toxic and was harder on their breathing then something like lacquer-thinner or industrial glue?

On a pre-cursor note, has anyone tried taking the bayo apart? The metal is held by a rivet with a washer on each side, I had no problems punching the rivet out of the washer but it only went 1/2-way easily. When I pounded it some more the wood split down the centre where it had been joined originally. The end of the rivet wouldn't fit through the hole in the second half of the wood. I painted/glued it together and it should hold OK, the handle isn't 'load-bearing' in anyway.

Also, I think I had more trouble with getting the stock off then any one else I've read/heard about. The first bolt, the one which holds the buttplate on, was really tough. A screwdriver couldn't get enough torque and a tire-iron was too big so I used a ratchet-wrench with a big flat-head screwdriver bit and that got it ok.

I put the receiver in the vice and then went to town. The inner bolt wouldn't budge with a screwdriver and the tire iron seemed like the head was too small for that one. It also came pre-rounded a bit, like someone had tried getting it off before and either gave up or put it back on factory-tight, so that made it really hard.

I remembered (I think I remembered, either that or I came up with it myself but thought it was so brilliant that someone else must have done it before me) that someone here had taken a piece of wood and drilled/filed a hole in the centre to the be a tiny bit smaller then outer dimensions of a screwdriver handle and then pounded a screwdriver in so that they could use the wood like a handle.

I tried that but between the screwdriver slipping and the 'leverage-wood' finally cracking I figured that I wasn't going to be able to get it off with a screwdriver-type thing. I thought for a few minutes and I kept coming back to the hole in the bolt. I found a hex-bit for the ratchet wrench that was just a bit bigger then the hole and took a mallet to it and basically pounded it into the hole.

It only took about 30 seconds after that to get it off with the ratchet. When I got the bolt out you could see the 6 little strips of metal peeled back and down. The hole has a really nice hex shape and is no longer round so that's going to be my preferred method for on-and-off.

Speaking of which I'm still looking for a folding stock.
 
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For all you non-Slavic types, 'vojensky' means 'war'......remember, we are all comrades on this board.:)

momentalne anonymny said:
E.g. in Czech republic or Slovakia shooters with Vz. 58 or 858 or SKS or any other 7,62 x 39 mm cal. gun ( the same with 7,62 x 25 and 7,62 x 54R ) are not allowed to buy cheap army surplus ammo because it is considered to be "vojensky material". Do you like it? I.e. in Canada or U.S.A. you can buy two or more times cheaper ammo than in country of origin of gun and ammo. :mad: :confused: :eek:
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Vojna means War Vojensky really has no word for word translation Its like saying Warly. Therefore a proper translated interpretation would be military so Vojensky Material is Military Material herr comraden :).

Also the Czech and Slovak military has not gone through an all out or any real upgrade of their existing VZ 58s, therefore most of those pictures with different stocks are not Vojensky Material. This also goes for the B T forehand rail grip. Its not even manufactured in Czech or Slovak republic.
 
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