VZ58 223 slam Fire F'N out of control rifle

[Brutus]

Try soaking it in kerosene or gun cleaner. It may start to loosen. Sounds like a lack of maintenance by the previous owner. I check to make sure my firing pin moves freely just by gravity after every cleaning.
Oh...and you should have got a 7.62 instead...j/k...lol

Merely curing the symptoms and not the true cause IMO.

 

[Juster]

swapped in a magwell adapter so I can feed it LAR mags

Return it to original configuration first. Test disconnector with empty gun.

 

[X2guy]

Merely curing the symptoms and not the true cause IMO.

Please explain. If it has been poorly cared for and the pin is jammed due to corrosion wouldn't that be the root cause?

 

[Brutus]

Please explain. If it has been poorly cared for and the pin is jammed due to corrosion wouldn't that be the root cause?

I stated my opinion in my previous post. Now let's see what you personally find out with your own rifle first off.

After all, you have this problem, and not me.

Good luck to you.

 

[X2guy]

I don't have this problem. Mine is flawless
Because AKs and the VZs are so similar this must be the issue. How many of this 13k posts you have actually have helped someone.

 

[Innercity]

Either way the chief firearms engineer at CZ is one lazy b@stard, and backed up by one very poor quality assurance section.

LOL

Don't bring CZ into a CSA issue.

 

[X2guy]

Thanks I'll give it a try.

Let us know how you make out. I would think it is moving slightly but very stiff based on what you said is happening. I would also try giving it a few light taps with punch after it has soaked for 24hrs.

 

[Green Skull]

I had some slam fires the first few mags in mine but never any FTF or FTE. I've put a couple thousand rounds of every kind of ammo and I've never had any light strikes either. What year was the manufacture date?

 

[Outcast]

I had some slam fires the first few mags in mine but never any FTF or FTE. I've put a couple thousand rounds of every kind of ammo and I've never had any light strikes either. What year was the manufacture date?

I'm thinking 2013

 

[Kudu]

My works great, never had a problem (and it's the 5.56 / 223 version)

 

[Green Skull]

I'm thinking 2013

From what I remember the earlier versions of the 5.56 had some problems like your discribing.

 

[st1264]

Send it off to North Sylva and they'll deal with it.

There have been tons of problems with these, don't hate the messenger(s) for saying so - as it's the truth. No wonder Wolverine blew these out at a loss a little while back and sold them AS IS. I've seen less problems with the 7.62x39 versions reported, but the CSA are way more problematic than the CZ, FSN or CZH versions ever were.

Get it fixed by North Sylva and you should be good to go. I'd rather have you do that and try to fix it yourself and possibly have injuries to the shooter. Over-gassing, bolt problems plagued this model.

 

[Brutus]

Don't bring CZ into a CSA issue.

My confusion sorry.

Potato, potatoe, it's still unreliable.

 

[cam01]

That was my plan but I can't get the firing pin out. Completely seized in the firing pin channel.

I removed the extractor and spring, soaked it in CLP and tapped it on a block of wood to get the pin to come free after I worked it a bit back and forth with a dental pick and a 1/8" drift punch.

 

[ezzyfreeway]

So I have just discovered my VZ58 in 223 is a f'n possessed rifle. Not exactly sure wtf is going on.

So picked this rifle up a couple months ago off a cgn'r who said it ran great and had recently been tuned up by a well known dealer. So last month took it to the range and banged off less than 10 rounds of Norc ammo and had some fail to feed and fail to eject. Lite primer strikes as well. Thought it might be the ammo so ordered up some American eagle 55gr , swapped in a magwell adapter so I can feed it LAR mags.

So today hit the range and when I pulled the bolt back and let it fly.. Boom slam fire and a fail to eject. I'm like, wtf.. Pull the mag clear the stoppage and drop the bolt on another round and it chambers. Pull the trigger and boom, fail to eject. Clear the stoppage drop the bolt boom slam fire. Three more rounds chambered and three more clicks when there should have been a bang, lite primer hits and one more slam fire.

So wtf... Any idea who I should send this to in order to fix it. Gotta say this was a monumental range day disappointment.

get a real gun

 

[RedApe]

get a real gun

yeah like a Norinco AR....

 

[mattcwc]

It sucks but the only fix is to get one in 7.62.

 

[Outcast]

get a real gun

So helpful and enlightening.

 

[Brutus]

So I have just discovered my VZ58 in 223 is a f'n possessed rifle. Not exactly sure wtf is going on.

So picked this rifle up a couple months ago off a cgn'r who said it ran great and had recently been tuned up by a well known dealer. So last month took it to the range and banged off less than 10 rounds of Norc ammo and had some fail to feed and fail to eject. Lite primer strikes as well. Thought it might be the ammo so ordered up some American eagle 55gr , swapped in a magwell adapter so I can feed it LAR mags.

So today hit the range and when I pulled the bolt back and let it fly.. Boom slam fire and a fail to eject. I'm like, wtf.. Pull the mag clear the stoppage and drop the bolt on another round and it chambers. Pull the trigger and boom, fail to eject. Clear the stoppage drop the bolt boom slam fire. Three more rounds chambered and three more clicks when there should have been a bang, lite primer hits and one more slam fire.

So wtf... Any idea who I should send this to in order to fix it. Gotta say this was a monumental range day disappointment.

Lots of us make mistakes and get burned by others. Trader rating helps only somewhat.

 

[GunsNotPuns]

There have been tons of problems with these, don't hate the messenger(s) for saying so - as it's the truth. No wonder Wolverine blew these out at a loss a little while back and sold them AS IS. I've seen less problems with the 7.62x39 versions reported, but the CSA are way more problematic than the CZ, FSN or CZH versions ever were.

The OP bought a used rifle -- it's a bit difficult to blame CSA for his rifle when the rifle's history is pretty much an unknown. It could have been a lemon from the factory or the rifle's problems could be due to poor maintenance. No one, outside of the original owner I suppose, knows.

At any rate, the only problem I have with CSA (off topic) was their decision to use soft steel for the castle nut on their M4 style tube. I talked to a guy at CSA about this and he acknowledged that they might need to change to a harder steel. I ended up ordering one on the web that was better than the stock castle nut. That and the firing pin assembly is a pain in the ass to reassemble.