vz58 in Modern Military Combat

[Canadian Sig]

Sweet. First time I have seen them used away from guard duty at the gates of KAF....

 

[Grizzly Adams]

These guys must be special forces, need that special training to carry around a big bag of spare bolts and firing pins where ever they go.

Given all the stories, I've always wondered if the VZ 58 would turn out to be the Czech version of the Ross, if things had really heated up during the Cold War.

Grizz

 

[BR427]

There is a difference in both design and caliber between the VZ58 and the AK74.

 

[KGB2014]

If you have a choice and RCMP allow either one in full auto, what would be your choice?

 

[223762]

i had to add a few pictures i found even i there not modern.

 

[870P]

Given all the stories, I've always wondered if the VZ 58 would turn out to be the Czech version of the Ross, if things had really heated up during the Cold War.

Grizz

It did alright in Vietnam apparently, the VC/NVA preferred the Kalashnikov for whatever reason but at least one elite U.S. soldier, namely Pat Tadina, a 5 tour LRRP, made good use out of a captured example.

Compared to the heavy milled AK-47s and Type 56s {I don't think the Vietnamese got any AKMs until 1972 or later} the VZ58 is wonderfully light and lively!

 

[bfiles]

Love the bren 805 in that one pic.

 

[Mr.4x4]

Best go to rifle EVER! Keep the pics coming

 

[bfiles]

Oh man do I love the look of that mounted grenade launcher.

 

[.30/06 FTW]

If you have a choice and RCMP allow either one in full auto, what would be your choice?

Full auto Vz 58 for sure, if for no other reason than the gigantic ejection port.

 

[223762]

yes Bfiles. yeesss me two.. its a "vg 70 grenade launcher"....not mine, just a must want item.

and pictures....

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and a picture of my bedroom... jk my "future ex-bedroom".

 

[870P]

If you have a choice and RCMP allow either one in full auto, what would be your choice?

AK-74, hands down, other than in weight, finishing and maybe selector layout the 74 comes out ahead in every department.

 

[enefgee]

AK-74, hands down, other than in weight, finishing and maybe selector layout the 74 comes out ahead in every department.

Comes in decidedly slow in the rate of fire department.

 

[870P]

Comes in decidedly slow in the rate of fire department.

Controllability in automatic fire is that much better though, if not for the heavy bolt mass flying back and forth it feels like shooting a rimfire!

 

[Recce21]

It's called the CZH2003 and many people have them in Canada.

Vz58's are said to be great rifles, the Czech military has been using them for quite sometime. Also the cz858 is a great rifle in my opinion. The csa vz58 in .223rem is hit and miss from what I hear, pretty sure any of us would love to own a military grade vz58, I sure as hell would.

 

[allarile260]

I love this thread

 

[TRaTSeRiF]

Full auto Vz 58 for sure, if for no other reason than the gigantic ejection port.

Full or semi AK, if for no other reason than the gigantic aftermarket

 

[Mumbles Marble Mouth]

16 inch AK's come with 1mm stamped receivers, 23 inch RPK's come with 1.5mm stamped receivers - put an RPK barrel on an AK receiver and watch the fun. It's like US AK's with bolted trunnions, both bolts and rivets are fasteners, but bolted trunnions are bad news and even using the wrong rivets is bad news. Incidentally, if you have one of the old "non-restricted" 18.5 barrel Chinese AK's, you'll find it was built on an RPK receiver, whereas if you have an old "restricted" Chinese AK it'll more than likely have an AK receiver (they standardized on the RPK receiver towards the end).

You're talking AK's though. A Vz 58 is milled. I'm pretty sure the milled receiver can put up with an extra 3 inches.

 

[Mumbles Marble Mouth]

I've had both the CZ 858 and the CSA .223 Vz 58. The CZ 858 had the gremlin type 2 which is an easier fix than type 1. The .223 Vz 58 blew up at the range, got sent to Movie arms, was repaired, and has been amazing ever since.

 

[fenceline]

If you have a choice and RCMP allow either one in full auto, what would be your choice?

AK-74, hands down, other than in weight, finishing and maybe selector layout the 74 comes out ahead in every department.

About that...

Seeing as the ak74 is in 5.45x39, it is more apples to apples comparing the ak47 and the vz58.

Vz58 has a higher rate of fire, better iron sights, better accuracy in semi auto and is more accurate in full auto although it will muzzle climb more than an ak47 if you don't control it.