Vz58 or su 16 fx

[xdmer]

VZ really , no question about it. I had an 16FX.

 

[enefgee]

Honestly, they aren't really comparable, from design day 1 the Vz was intended to keep people alive in terrible circumstances, while the Kel Tec was designed to shoot pop cans. Not even close to the same.

 

[heineken44i]

Vz is the way to go for sure. More accessories, cheap surplus ammo. It's like the Canadian AK!!! Except it's not an AK

 

[r34skyline]

Is this a serious question?

If so a vz. The su16 is a joke.

 

[biker_boy]

My pick would be the VZ.

 

[L42A1]

vz58 is better by far.

 

[mikethebike]

The VZ in every category except 'breakability'

Emmm keltec plastic receivers cracking and blowing apart when firing are better than a vz metal receiver?
are you high?

 

[Deckard]

He probably means break down, or fold. Mind you, if made of aluminum it would be a great design ...and it wouldn't even morph into an AR!

 

[connexion123]

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[RDMC]

I would go with all the wisdoms your offered... Get the VZ and in 7.62x39

 

[Vivie84]

Have a Vz58 in both 5.56 and the 7.62x39. Love shooting both.

Just did the Magwell Conversion on my 5.56 version and going to run some pmags and see how they go!

 

[uberti77]

what was the problem with your su-16fx? Cause i wanted to trade my ksg for someone 's su-16fx . Do you think it's a good trade?

 

[uberti77]

VZ really , no question about it. I had an 16FX.

what was the problem with your su-16fx? cause i want to trade my ksg for someone 's su-16fx. do you think it's a good trade?

 

[Km11]

One more for VZ 58. I have one in .223 it's a great rifle

 

[VanIsleCam]

Emmm keltec plastic receivers cracking and blowing apart when firing are better than a vz metal receiver?
are you high?

What Malice is saying is that the VZ takes every category except "breakability" which is the one category where the su16 wins....

 

[warrenlikesboats]

The threads on CGN are filled with more complaints about .223 VZ's breaking than SU 16s...... What does that tell u?

Both are great shooting guns if they last, I own and shoot both, except my VZ is a 7.62.

 

[infidel29]

what was the problem with your su-16fx? Cause i wanted to trade my ksg for someone 's su-16fx . Do you think it's a good trade?

Lord Jesus, no. Keep the kel tec. su 16 are garbage.

 

[VanIsleCam]

The threads on CGN are filled with more complaints about .223 VZ's breaking than SU 16s...... What does that tell u?

Both are great shooting guns if they last, I own and shoot both, except my VZ is a 7.62.

True re: 223 VZ issues posted. Perhaps the problem(s) were resolved. I recall a couple of them resolving satisfactorily. No experience with the SU16 but a Vz in 7.62 can do this off a bench - no optics / surplus ammo / 50 yards / 20 rounds in this pic ....

 

[pavmentsurfer]

I have a VZ in both 7.62 and .223 and I've had a SU16... the VZ is SOOOOOOO much better. Only area the SU is superior is weight, but your trading so much for lighter weight (including longevity) its not worth it. Theres a reason most high quality, long lasting firearms are on the heavy side.

I would also like to say of the 3 VZ58's in .223 I've owned over the past 5 years, every one of them was FLAWLESS... in fact (ill probably get flack for this) I like how a .223 VZ58 shoots BETTER than an AR... It just feels smoother. hard to describe. With an $80 magwel installed you can run 50 beowulf mags and get 15 rounds in there (my VZ's ran the 50 beowulf mags no problem).

A VZ is a gun you buy and keep for a LONG time. An SU16 is a gun you buy, play with, then sell after a little while.

 

[lone-wolf]

The VZ in every category except 'breakability'

thumbs up

I had both, only got rid of the vz because I wanted an ar15 for range use.
The su16 is fine for a $400 rifle though.
Mini14 is better than the su16.