W.g.p. Ltd
- Thread starter black powder
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I'm with Catt on this one.
Years ago I felt as some do here.
Then I figure, can't beat'em, join'em.
Smile when you talk to them/her.
I have lernt to email them with the proper model and serial numbers.
Helps them out if you have the factory part numbers as well.
Do the leg work for them, lay out your request like a parts order sheet from
a big firm.
Start with a pleasant hello and end with a thank you.
They are a wee big $$, but in the grand scheme of things, I've repaired a few hard to
get shooters and brought them back to life with parts from these fine folks.
Last was that A5 20 gauge.
They made the process easy and fore warned me they had all the parts I needed in stock at
that moment and these parts don't stay on the shelf.
What was really remarkable is the fact the prices were nickel and dimes from our southern vendors.
Western Gun Parts, thank you for your services.
The rest of you need to pull up yer drawers.
Me werk iz dun here................
black powder
CGN Regular
- Location
- Saint Hippolyte
Right.
Them having one, isn't the same as you gettin' one from them.
WGP's parts are already on this side of the Border.
Midway does not need our money bad enough to risk another fine. They will not Export. They won't sell to have it delivered to a post office box on the US side either, if they get a sniff that the person buying it is taking it out of the Country illegally. It's a gun part. There are laws in the US that say that there needs to be a bunch of permits in place.
Brownell's lists them but they can list all they want for any price, when they don't have them! I don't have any either, so, how's about 10 cents each then? May be more, if I ever get some!
Between the minimum orders, the shipping charges, and the rest of the getting it in the hoop as stuff comes across the border (GST/HST/PST/Brokerage), $30 looks pretty reasonable. Being a whiner, not so much.
Cheers
Trev
gunrunner100
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- NW Ontario
Not in this case Looky.
Trevj mentioned about Midway not dealing with Canadians. Brownells is getting that way as well. Ordered a bunch of stuff only to have my order "reduced" due to no permits being in place from their vendor.
People should understand that the cost of gunparts for grampa's old gun, whatever it is, is whatever you are willing to pay. Parts for a lot of firearms made 20+ years ago are obsolete and no longer in production. If you need something, buy it when you find it.
Brownell's will deal with Canadians. But they have to deal within the new US laws, that require that the outfit that makes the parts, register (and therefore, pay for the privilege) in order that Brownell's can sell the stuff out of Country. IIRC, the fine that Midway paid out was close to a quarter million dollars. They still have the other half of that fine held in abeyance, hanging over their heads if they get caught doing such again. Not worth the risk for them!
As I understand it, they exported 500 scopes without the proper paperwork, got fined $1K EACH scope, and paid out half in cash, and got left with the other half hanging over their heads in perpetuity, if they screw it up again.
So, the way I see this is that a fella can spend upwards of a couple grand on tools, equipment and materials to make a thirty cent part (that would be a Milling machine, lathe, assorted other shop tools, and a DIY injection mold set-up, plus time and failures along the way), or one can smile, nod, and swallow hard, and get on with one's own life after paying out what the man asks for a part that shouldn't cost so much, but does.
Speaking of DIY injection molding, there is a lot of info around, but it all hinges upon being able to make the mold, so you pretty much need the rest of the machine tools to do so...
Me, I wouldn't bother buying one. Like I said earlier, its a few minutes at the bench to make a reasonable substitute, if not a far better part from metal. But what I will do for myself for free, you are not going to convince me to sell to you for any less than the $30 it would cost you to buy one elsewhere.
Cheers
Trev
Glock4ever
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
I have purchased from WGP both in person and via phone and found them to be very helpful. The issue about prices is reflected in the fact that they only stock parts. No ammo, scopes, etc. They are a parts outlet not a Hunting store so if you are looking for a hard to find part frequently you can get lucky and get it from them. There are times when I was quoted a price from them (i.e. Gun mags for commonly available guns) which I decided to walk away from because they were way too high but if you are looking for something obscure it can be a godsend and I was glad to pay the higher price. If it is too much for you to pay than just walk away, no need to complain that they are stocking an obscure part (which may or may not sell) and don't sell it to you cheaply... just my 2 cents.
ipscgraz
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I have used WGP for some pretty obscure items. If they are going to have a cocking piece for an anonymous 22 bolt action that hasn't been made in 40 years, you can expect that they will have to charge some extra $$$ to cover the cost of a wide ranging inventory. And they have many many more parts, all catalogued, sitting waiting in case someone might want it one day, freezing capitol.
$0.35 for a bolt handle? Misprint?
$30.00 for a bolt handle? if you had other, cheaper options, why did you not go there first?
$0.35 for a bolt handle? Misprint?
$30.00 for a bolt handle? if you had other, cheaper options, why did you not go there first?
black powder
CGN Regular
- Location
- Saint Hippolyte
After doing some research on the web ...i came to the conclusion that W.G.P.LTD has the lowest final price for the bolt handle.. ..NUMRICH in the usa will ship but they add on [International orders are subject to a $35.00 export handling fee in addition to our regular shipping charges].if i add the part + shipping +$35.00 + tax i will be way over the WGP LTD price ..really sorry if i ruffled some feathers ..so i retract my posting regarding W.G.P.LTD and offer my apologies ...
- Location
- East ontario
WGP. Has a great gig.
Most of what they do is buy up old guns and strip then for parts and inventory all of it
Same as a moden car scrap yard.
We have debated starting a biz doing the same thing. The money you could make would be unreal.
And when you find a part people keep asking for, then you have that part made.
Like I say , just like the used car part biz.
Most of what they do is buy up old guns and strip then for parts and inventory all of it
Same as a moden car scrap yard.
We have debated starting a biz doing the same thing. The money you could make would be unreal.
And when you find a part people keep asking for, then you have that part made.
Like I say , just like the used car part biz.
The guns you break for parts have to be priced so that one or two parts pay for the gun. There are lots of parts that will never, ever sell.
George Numrich built a business breaking guns for parts. Grew beyond that, of course. Ira Trast gave me a cook's tour of the place over forty years ago. Very interesting.
Like the auto parts businesses, computerized inventory and the internet really help.
George Numrich built a business breaking guns for parts. Grew beyond that, of course. Ira Trast gave me a cook's tour of the place over forty years ago. Very interesting.
Like the auto parts businesses, computerized inventory and the internet really help.
I'm guessing that it's a minimum order too. I was an idiot and shipped a 66 with charging handle left in it...didn't arrive that way! (Lesson learned) This was 2 or 3 years ago, and 20$ got it replaced (the part came form WGP).
At that time they were all over ebay for about fifteen bucks, but none of them would ship it to Canada.
At that time they were all over ebay for about fifteen bucks, but none of them would ship it to Canada.
Funny, innit, how the perspective changes once you actually look into it a bit. Doesn't much matter what the price is if you can't get one, and in the end, it's really going to be the price to get it to your door that matters, not the list price of the item.
Minimum orders are easy. Pad it out with anything else you can think of that you need. Magazines, a set of rings, or sling swivels, etc., etc.
No different than dealing with places that will ship for free once you get over a certain value order. Lesse, pay $60 for what I really want, plus $30 for postage, or pad out the order to get over the $75 'Free shipping' value? Worth paying attention to the stuff!
Cheers
Trev
