Walk In To Pick Up Ammo, Walk Out with a Precision Rifle...

thegazelle said:
I thought medium rings would work. May try it again tonight when I am less frustrated.
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Maybe not, it's more like an AR-15, probably require something like high, or even extra high. Eye relief should be relatively easy to set, some rifles like AR's may need a set of off set rings to move the scope forward, I can't speak to this combination though. Hopefully someone else with one of these Rifles can comment.
 
redshooter said:
Maybe not, it's more like an AR-15, probably require something like high, or even extra high. Eye relief should be relatively easy to set, some rifles like AR's may need a set of off set rings to move the scope forward, I can't speak to this combination though. Hopefully someone else with one of these Rifles can comment.
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You, my friend, are awesome.

Turns out yes, the 1" high rings made a huge difference. So too did finding out how to adjust my cheek piece (wish it was a wheel but it's two torque screws to loosen and then manually set. It looks significantly better than yesterday. Not perfect - I still feel I have to strain a bit to press into the cheek weld, and I can't get a consistent "put cheek here, see sight picture" - there's still some adjustment needed, but it's easier to get to the full picture than yesterday when it was constant straining, too hard squinting and between donuts and crescents, it was frustrating. I may try extra high rings but this I can get used to. I ordered some scope levelling and bubble supplies so that once I get everything set, it will be as right as I can make it.

Thanks for the suggestion.
 
STEELCITYSLICKER said:
is this place still around?

Your recollection takes me back to time with my dad spent there....holy smokes.
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Lovetts Rod and Gun was big business back in the '70's and '80's. Keith moved from King Street, right where the line was between Waterloo and Kitchener, to a building in Kitchener where he had more room. Something killed his business, it was some new regulation that came out, for the life of me I can't remember what it was. Can't be that we had NR registration back then. Anyway last time I saw him, he had moved into a much smaller spot in that city. I bought a pellet gun from him that day, he said he was ready to close up due to lack of sales. That was the last time I talked to him.
 
Hush07 said:
Lovetts Rod and Gun was big business back in the '70's and '80's. Keith moved from King Street, right where the line was between Waterloo and Kitchener, to a building in Kitchener where he had more room. Something killed his business, it was some new regulation that came out, for the life of me I can't remember what it was. Can't be that we had NR registration back then. Anyway last time I saw him, he had moved into a much smaller spot in that city. I bought a pellet gun from him that day, he said he was ready to close up due to lack of sales. That was the last time I talked to him.
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Man, I am out that way fairly often - I was going to see if I can drop by this place, but a quick search on it did not reveal any kind of website presence. Further, I see from some reviews that it would appear that it may have closed around 2015 or so...hopefully that's not the case. I love stores like this. Will drop by the area next time I am around which should be next week...

I recently met up with a CGNer to sell him something and he told me about a place he frequents that is not really advertised. They too have no web presence, and as such you have to go in store to check out the inventory, some of it is hard to find stuff. I plan to check it out soon. It would be fun to have a listing of all places like this. I have always found these smaller shops offer fantastic service, and the owner is more than happy to talk firearms-related stuff for hours on end...
 
Hush07 said:
Lovetts Rod and Gun was big business back in the '70's and '80's. Keith moved from King Street, right where the line was between Waterloo and Kitchener, to a building in Kitchener where he had more room. Something killed his business, it was some new regulation that came out, for the life of me I can't remember what it was. Can't be that we had NR registration back then. Anyway last time I saw him, he had moved into a much smaller spot in that city. I bought a pellet gun from him that day, he said he was ready to close up due to lack of sales. That was the last time I talked to him.
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Dang. I appreciate the info. I was maybe at most, 7 or 8.

I grew up in Erin, so the once a year pilgrimage was a big deal.
 
Lovett's has been closed for a while, last location was on an older section of King street here in Kitchener that leads down into the 401/Cambridge area. The store was picked up for a while by some local folks who tried to make a go of it and were around for a while but ended up closing up shop as well. It's a comic book store now I believe. We are still lucky to have Select Shooting Supplies and their new location at the 401 off ramp at the top of Shantz Hill. Incredible store and indoor range that are well worth a visit if your in the area.
 
Devlin said:
Lovett's has been closed for a while, last location was on an older section of King street here in Kitchener that leads down into the 401/Cambridge area. The store was picked up for a while by some local folks who tried to make a go of it and were around for a while but ended up closing up shop as well. It's a comic book store now I believe. We are still lucky to have Select Shooting Supplies and their new location at the 401 off ramp at the top of Shantz Hill. Incredible store and indoor range that are well worth a visit if your in the area.
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Interesting. Never realized Select is there. I drop by that area in taking my lady friend to Costco (I'm not from the region, so unfamiliar with the area except for the Costco), and knowing this now, I have probably passed Select Shooting Supplies 40 times without knowing. Shall have to make a stop there next time in a week for sure.
 
BEWARE of Savage rifles, bought recently a model 110/SR for Cabela's, received it via mail-order. Upon inspection the rifling at the muzzle was completely buggered as if was ripped out of the chuck, as well there was no evidence of any crowning done. Had to send it back to Savage Canada for a barrel replacement, still waiting. I own half a dozen Savage rifles and been pleased with all of them. Did some research on this model and found it was a common complaint, as well, recently there has been a lot of complaints about their rifles in general recently. Shoddy workmanship, lack of QC etc. buyer beware, don't buy sight unseen.
 
bibatoad said:
BEWARE of Savage rifles, bought recently a model 110/SR for Cabela's, received it via mail-order. Upon inspection the rifling at the muzzle was completely buggered as if was ripped out of the chuck, as well there was no evidence of any crowning done. Had to send it back to Savage Canada for a barrel replacement, still waiting. I own half a dozen Savage rifles and been pleased with all of them. Did some research on this model and found it was a common complaint, as well, recently there has been a lot of complaints about their rifles in general recently. Shoddy workmanship, lack of QC etc. buyer beware, don't buy sight unseen.
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This isn't exactly news, Savage has had the odd QC issue forever, the up side is they are very good about replacing defective Firearms. If you can it's prudent to inspect any Firearm before you buy, a little more important with a Savage.
 
Any range reports on this setup? I've got a couple savage mkII in 22lr but my .223 is a Mossberg. Does she shoot like a grown up version of her little siblings?
 
Rod B said:
I have heard a lot of people complaining about Savage rifles, poor stocks, rough rifling etc. I wonder how many of the complainants have owned one?. They are not the very best looking guns but most seem to shoot extremely well. The Axis is a true bargain, I'm sure you will be very happy with it.
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Perhaps because some of us value more qualities in a rifle then just it's ability to shoot - pretty much any modern rifle shoots well these days.

Anyways, congrats to the OP, always fun to get a new toy!
 
kthomas said:
Perhaps because some of us value more qualities in a rifle then just it's ability to shoot - pretty much any modern rifle shoots well these days.

Anyways, congrats to the OP, always fun to get a new toy!
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Agree, you get what you pay for. IMO Savage rifles are junk. I bought a Savage rifle a few years back and will never waste my money on one again.
 
chanrobi said:
A Tikka T3 will outshoot this, will outshoot a lot of things including up to custom actions worth 4-5x as much
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Whatever...f:P:

To those guys who read this thinking I'd like to try this Precision Rifle thing, but some members infer to prevent your wiener from...from what, hey B does it actually fall off, or become so small it's basically lost, anyway, you need to at least have a Tikka, or woe to you. It really depends on what your expectations are, AND how much cash you have.

It's true folks, Tikka has superior products, and apparently much better quality control. That said if you want a starter Precision Rifle and can only come up with $1,100, this is your Rifle, esp. if you are looking to start with a .223 Rem, and don't want to screw about with aftermarket stuff. It's a Savage, I've never had one that couldn't manage at worst 3/4 moa when I did my part with the right ammo. Since Savage's QC lets the occasional head scratcher through it's always prudent to buy a Savage in person, just a quick look down the bore to make sure it was rifled in the middle of the week. Extraction might be a little weak, and maybe the factory barrel won't deal with excessive heat well, but that 1 in 7 twist makes up for any bad habits in my book.

If you have cash, or are seriously thinking about shooting PRS, F-Class, or whatever, maybe you do want to go big, or go home. If you want to dip your toe to test the water, or only looking to join in the fun shooting in Logged areas, bang for buck I think a 223, or even the 30-06 is the winner...
 
redshooter said:
Whatever...f:P:

To those guys who read this thinking I'd like to try this Precision Rifle thing, but some members infer to prevent your wiener from...from what, hey B does it actually fall off, or become so small it's basically lost, anyway, you need to at least have a Tikka, or woe to you. It really depends on what your expectations are, AND how much cash you have.

It's true folks, Tikka has superior products, and apparently much better quality control. That said if you want a starter Precision Rifle and can only come up with $1,100, this is your Rifle, esp. if you are looking to start with a .223 Rem, and don't want to screw about with aftermarket stuff. It's a Savage, I've never had one that couldn't manage at worst 3/4 moa when I did my part with the right ammo. Since Savage's QC lets the occasional head scratcher through it's always prudent to buy a Savage in person, just a quick look down the bore to make sure it was rifled in the middle of the week. Extraction might be a little weak, and maybe the factory barrel won't deal with excessive heat well, but that 1 in 7 twist makes up for any bad habits in my book.

If you have cash, or are seriously thinking about shooting PRS, F-Class, or whatever, maybe you do want to go big, or go home. If you want to dip your toe to test the water, or only looking to join in the fun shooting in Logged areas, bang for buck I think a 223, or even the 30-06 is the winner...
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It's not about going big or going home.

I get it, some people have very restricted budgets, others just have priorities other then precision rifle shooting, which is fine too.

If a Savage is all you can afford, or all you want to afford, then by all means have at it. They are certainly cheap, and there is a reason for it. QA/QC sucks, the stocks are really cheap, base mount holes may very well be out of alignment, screws have a tendency to work themselves out, the machining is rough, etc.

People advise on Tikka because it is literally the best value proposition in the market. It's more expensive then the Savage, but it's a lot higher quality. It also doesn't break the bank either. Lots of aftermarket support for Tikka, you can even get prefit shouldered barrels for them now. It's a great rifle to build up as your skills and needs/wants progress in the sport.

If all you want is a Savage, then that's absolutely fine. But dollar for dollar, it's not a great value proposition. And that's why people steer others towards Tikka. It's a better base that can progress with you, without breaking the bank.
 
iron cat said:
That all depends on the model of Savage now, doesn't it?
Remingtons are a very popular rifle, remember the 710?
Cat
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The Savage rifle I bought was not the cheapest but not a target model either. It was a Long Range Precision in 6.5 CM. When chambering a round (factory rounds) there was resistance to get the round in the chamber. Upon ejecting an unfired round the side of the case was gouged to the point the case was garbage and unsafe to fire. I would assume the rifle was test fired prior to leaving the factory but the rifle should have never left the building. It wasn't restricted to any particular brand of ammunition and did it with various brands. I know anything man made can be defective but it seems to happen more with Savage than others brands. Chances of getting something defective from Cadex, Accuracy International etc are a lot less likely than a Savage for example. Again you get what you pay for imo.
 
EC said:
The Savage rifle I bought was not the cheapest but not a target model either. It was a Long Range Precision in 6.5 CM. When chambering a round (factory rounds) there was resistance to get the round in the chamber. Upon ejecting an unfired round the side of the case was gouged to the point the case was garbage and unsafe to fire. I would assume the rifle was test fired prior to leaving the factory but the rifle should have never left the building. It wasn't restricted to any particular brand of ammunition and did it with various brands. I know anything man made can be defective but it seems to happen more with Savage than others brands. Chances of getting something defective from Cadex, Accuracy International etc are a lot less likely than a Savage for example. Again you get what you pay for imo.
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I have seen issues with higher end rifles as well as semi customs, it happens.
One shop that is very well known sent out a 3000 mag that would not chamber a factory round, turns out it was not reamed properly.
Another well know shop re-barreled a 995-T with a Krieger barrel so off center my friend could not get it into the stock, it was over 1/8" off!
A new rifle with the issue you had can be sent back for warranty, I don't consider that a big deal.
However I rarely buy new rifles, II prefer to buy old ones and modify then to my liking.
Cat
 
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