Walnut/Blued rifles

Johnn Peterson said:
With some of the load suggestions using faster burning powders, the only even close to indepth accuracy tests I did, with and without the use of fillers was with Unique. From what limited testing I did do, results did appear to be better with use of the filler in the reloads. To that end, I did end up using it with all the faster burning powder for lighter cast bullet loads. See;), I need another Pedersoli:).
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Of course, to add to the thread, My preference has always been for blued & wood built rifles. I only have 2 synthetic stocked ones, a Savage 10 Precision Carbine in .223 & a Steyr SBS Big Bore in .450 Marlin. These I can live with as they are accurate, well made rifles that don't feel hollow in the stocks & they fit me just right.

On the subject of reduced loads & fillers, that's what I do for all my rifles for both game and plinking. I've had good success using kapok filler(Dacron fluff from toys) since the '70's in everything from .17 Remington to .458 magnum and my favorite powders are SR4759 & Accurate 5744. In my .357 mag. lever guns I use Blue Dot and a pinch of kapok to hold the powder in position for consistent results.

I'll soon be out testing loads in my Pedersoli 86/71, Steyr .450 & my Husqvarna 46a in 9.3x57 (.366 Wagner Junior);)
 
Johnn Peterson said:
Me as well.:) I gave this to my young son in the B.C. central interior and I'm sure he'll put it to good use ;)with Dad's reloads.

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I wasn't any too fond of the straight stock anyway. Can be hard on the fingers using high end loads.
Anyway, this is on the way as a replacement.

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I see dickdropoffitis runs in the family.
 
It's a CZ 550 Safari Classic 458WM. It's been an absolute blast. I carried it a bit last season but didn't end up seeing anything. I have some 350gr Speer mag tips going 2500fps that I am dialling in that should be a great all-around load for anything on this continent :)
 
hoytcanon said:
What moisturizer do you use?

As a bonus, you can melt down those bullets for a boat anchor, should the need arise.
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If you're referring to my hand, I don't! Haha
Not sure why my hand looks so pink in that pic but I'm assuming it's because I took the pic with an iPhone and it messed with the lighting.

Not a boat man myself, but they could be used for fishing weight I guess...
I know it's a helluva lot more than required, but I actually enjoy it! Big bores give a whole different thrill to shooting for me and the more I shoot them the more I like them. It's not everyone's cup of tea I know, but I love it ;)
 
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galamb said:
Until now I have always carried walnut/blued for deer/moose in Ontario.

But that's because my "youngest" gun was built in 1957.

Since age is starting to take hold I have decided to replace my two main rifles (Rem 740/30.06 and Win 94/30-30).

The 30-30 (deer) got replaced by a Wby VGII with a synthetic stock mostly because the price was right and the wood stock version wasn't immediately available to me.

The 30.06 will get replaced with a wood stocked something - still waffling between blued or stainless, might come down to availability, and probably a Browning.

The two rifles I'm replacing (sending to the safe) are 59 and 58 years old respectively. They were never babied, hunted in some nasty weather, rugged terrain and to be honest, I'm not particularly vigilant when it comes to cleaning/oiling and they survived just fine all that time with very little signs of wear (beyond the typical).

I think the mfg's, in an effort to cut costs, collectively convinced us that synthetic was solving some great problem and we should be thankful that produced a stock for about 1/10 the cost of a wood one and discounted that model by maybe 10% compared to the wood version - real nice of them.

If I buy a new wood stocked rifle today, and it gets anywhere near the lifespan that my older pair have, I would have to live to be about 110 to retire it.

I just don't think wood/blued is anywhere near as "fragile" as some tend to believe. It's not like we are living on the mountain for months at a time.

I'm not averse to synthetic or stainless or both, but I would only buy it if the rifle appealed to me - thinking it will give me some advantage in lifespan of the firearm doesn't even come into the equation..
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We like to hang on to the past but reality always asserts itself.
I'll never sell my 3 x pre64 Win 94s all in 30-30 but when the sight picture thru 60+ year old eyes at iron sites was like looking thru a frosted glass window I needed to explore other possibilities.
My deer rifle now is a scoped Marlin 336C in 35 Rem.
Still blued steel and walnut.
 
I love wood and blue, however; there is a little place for Tupperware once in a while. Here is my Fabarm Beta IV, 12 ga., 30 inch barrels, gold inlay, the works. Nothing beats cradling wood and blue rifles/shotguns. The second shotgun is a LC Smith 16 gauge, all original parts that was restored by Martini, Hagn and Turnbull. Both shotguns are now my sons. It was a pre Christmas gift I gave to him recently.



 
It is very hard to argue with blued steel and a nice piece of wood, but for those hunting excursions in rough country in often wet conditions, I will take my laminated stainless all day long.
 
Johnn Peterson said:

I'm weak and couldn't resist.
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Beautiful hunting gun and a beautiful looking gun.
Too bad these are restricted to the gun safe and approved ranges in Canada.
I have a scoped Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull I keep back in the New Hampshire family homestead that isn't nearly as attractive as the gun pictured above but it gets the job done.
My brother killed a big Maine buck deer (10 pointer) with it last fall.
I have a stainless Guide Gun that has a walnut stock that I use in Canada that has the same attractive walnut and synthetic look.
 
Gunoholic said:
Beautiful hunting gun and a beautiful looking gun.
Too bad these are restricted to the gun safe and approved ranges in Canada.
I have a scoped Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull I keep back in the New Hampshire family homestead that isn't nearly as attractive as the gun pictured above but it gets the job done.
My brother killed a big Maine buck deer (10 pointer) with it last fall.
I have a stainless Guide Gun that has a walnut stock that I use in Canada that has the same attractive walnut and synthetic look.
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I had the same, as/my post #44, but I gave it to my son who lives in the B.C. central interior. I found, with the hotter loads the gun is capeable of handling and especially in conjunction with the heavier bullets, the straight stock design is/can be a little hard on the fingers.
 
track said:
I love wood and blue, however; there is a little place for Tupperware once in a while. Here is my Fabarm Beta IV, 12 ga., 30 inch barrels, gold inlay, the works. Nothing beats cradling wood and blue rifles/shotguns. The second shotgun is a LC Smith 16 gauge, all original parts that was restored by Martini, Hagn and Turnbull. Both shotguns are now my sons. It was a pre Christmas gift I gave to him recently.



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VERY nice track. By comparisson, the wood on my upland bird gun, an English 12ga. SxS, is fairly plain.



However, the wood on my Waterfowler, an AYA 3 1/2" 10ga. mag, is a little better.



 
Johnn Peterson said:
I had the same, as/my post #44, but I gave it to my son who lives in the B.C. central interior. I found, with the hotter loads the gun is capeable of handling and especially in conjunction with the heavier bullets, the straight stock design is/can be a little hard on the fingers.
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For sure.
I'm pushing the Buffalo Bore 430 grain hard cast lead factory rounds thru my SS GG.
3500+ ft-lbs ME.
My GG is pretty "sassy" when shooting the BB factory loads for sure.
Upside: Nuthin in North America hit solid with one of those 430 grain slugs is walking away.
My Alaska bear protection gun.
I lived in Alaska a while and might go back there when I retire to breathe the air of freedom once more.
Strap a hogs leg to my hip and away I go - no pesky CFO killjoy to spoil my fun.
 
Gunoholic said:
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For sure.
I'm pushing the Buffalo Bore 430 grain hard cast lead factory rounds thru my SS GG.
3500+ ft-lbs ME.
My GG is pretty "sassy" when shooting the BB factory loads for sure.
Upside: Nuthin in North America hit solid with one of those 430 grain slugs is walking away.
My Alaska bear protection gun.
I lived in Alaska a while and might go back there when I retire to breathe the air of freedom once more.
Strap a hogs leg to my hip and away I go - no pesky CFO killjoy to spoil my fun.
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Agree with your "Upside", and as we speak, I'm patiently awaiting the arrival of my:) 'replacement' Marlin, as in post #44.



Yes, I envy where a handgun can be used in the field. Shortly after I acquired my 500 S&W,



I had 'plans' of a Moose trip to Alaska and made inquiries along those line with a few guide outfits there. Retirement income level will need a little assistence. It's something that's still on my 'bucket' list and;) with a little assistence tonight from Lotto 649.....................:d .
 
Johnn Peterson said:
I had 'plans' of a Moose trip to Alaska and made inquiries along those line with a few guide outfits there. Retirement income level will need a little assistence. It's something that's still on my 'bucket' list and;) with a little assistence tonight from Lotto 649.....................:d .
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Oooooo.....sssssss... Ya didn't hear, did ya?........ Well this is kinda awkward,..... I hate to be the one to have to break it to ya....... but, ah.... I've got the wining ticket for the 649 tonight..... Sorry. LOL
 
GMC403 said:
Oooooo.....sssssss... Ya didn't hear, did ya?........ Well this is kinda awkward,..... I hate to be the one to have to break it to ya....... but, ah.... I've got the wining ticket for the 649 tonight..... Sorry. LOL
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No no no no no! I did what the old advert from a way back stated. "I hung my snowshoes with the pointy part up, it's my turn!!"
 
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