Walther PDP

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Bartok5 said:
Have you fired a PDP? Even held one? I thought not. But go ahead and mock those who have. You are cearly an expert in your own mind....
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I guess your questions were rhetorical?!

It looks like you're a staunch supporter of this particular "best striker fired pistol" and I'm sorry for having offended you. See you in the next "best striker fired pistol ever" thread!

Cheers
 
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er...ah..that would be the Walther PPQ Match perhaps. I own three of the PPQ's so it has to be the best striker fired on the market. I am down to only two S&W M&P Pros so they are the 2nd best striker fired pistol. I have not shot, handled or otherwise seen a PDP. I'll bet it is the best LEO striker fired pistol but I'll keep my Match for playing SSP IDPA.

Gun owners are like dogs loyal to their masters aka the pistol they presently own.

Take Care

Bob
 
I get that some people are skeptical when they hear about a new striker fired gun, but the Walther PDP really is a step above the current line up of available guns.
The PDP is like a Glock only with a really good grip, barrel and trigger right out of the box. Also super deep optic cut into the slide, perfect grip texture (again factory standard) and a great slide design with extra deep sharp cuts into the slide. Very good to grab and rack...even with wet, cold bloody hands or wearing gloves.

As I have said before, the paper doesn't lie. Walther PDP (and PPQ) are very accurate, but easy to shoot very accurate and produce excellent results on paper, in fact stunning results. Tennifer finish (no longer done on Glock due to cost) and stepped chamber in the barrel, all sorts of superb design features. Points perfectly natural for human biomechanics.

You need to try a PDP for a while and you will see what everyone is talking about. I like lots of guns and own many....but Walther PDP is special.

Rich
 
Rich LPS said:
I get that some people are skeptical when they hear about a new striker fired gun, but the Walther PDP really is a step above the current line up of available guns.
The PDP is like a Glock only with a really good grip, barrel and trigger right out of the box. Also super deep optic cut into the slide, perfect grip texture (again factory standard) and a great slide design with extra deep sharp cuts into the slide. Very good to grab and rack...even with wet, cold bloody hands or wearing gloves.

As I have said before, the paper doesn't lie. Walther PDP (and PPQ) are very accurate, but easy to shoot very accurate and produce excellent results on paper, in fact stunning results. Tennifer finish (no longer done on Glock due to cost) and stepped chamber in the barrel, all sorts of superb design features. Points perfectly natural for human biomechanics.

You need to try a PDP for a while and you will see what everyone is talking about. I like lots of guns and own many....but Walther PDP is special.

Rich
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If one was in the market for one, which option ? The compact 5” or the full size 4.5” ?

What optic would you recommend?
 
kekservative said:
It seem 5" slide with compact grip version is the only one available. I was personally more interested in 4.5" full size.
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I was interested in the compact with the 4.5" slide, however I don't think they are going to offer that. I've read? the compact 4" is G19 in size.
 
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padawan said:
Both are available

Which one would be the easiest to source mags for ?
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It's my understanding that the compact can use PPQ mags, which it seems makes the compact more desirable? however I'm wondering about the 5" slide? I prefer smaller pistols.
 
mildot said:
It's my understanding that the compact can use PPQ mags, which it seems makes the compact more desirable? however I'm wondering about the 5" slide? I prefer smaller pistols.
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Agreed. You would think a compact would have the 4.5” and the full size the 5”
 
padawan said:
Agreed. You would think a compact would have the 4.5” and the full size the 5”
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I'm hoping that combo makes here? I think they have a model with the threaded barrel with the compact frame, however I would prefer non threaded.

Just curious has Walther ever done a 106mm barrel for any of there pistols? & has Gravel or any other dealer listed what models will be available in Canada?
 
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The grips on the PPQ series seem to use what Walther must consider Compact. I know my PPQ Navy fits in the IDPA box for CCP Division whereas my CZ and S&W FS guns won't. The PPQ Navy uses the same mags as my PPQ Match and M2 5".

I have not held or even seen the PDP pistol up close. Rich could you clarify this is it is all a bit confusing. It would appear the grip size is the constant and when they refer to their Compact gun it is just the gun with the shorter barrel similar to the 1911 5" and The Commander1911 4.25".

All the features the gun brings to the table are directed at the LEO market. Nothing wrong with that but I tend to look for features that affect the sport I am shooting and am less concerned what the LEO's require. An example a feature PPQ's and I presume the PDP has it the ease in which sights may be changed. The night sights on my Navy are nice but they really agree no feature for me. I find picking up the front sight on the Navy in bright daylight difficult due to the off white colour of the night sight. I seldom shoot in complete darkness at IDPA events so the sight is not a feature for me. I intend to replace the sight with a FO one, It is a 5 minute job with the PPQ ... a feature of the gun and the Walther's we are discussing.

Take Care

Bob
 
okcorral1881 said:
I didn’t see them either but what I understood is the compact has a shorter grip.
Ok
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Well I went to the Walther website. The PPQ Match, Navy, M2 5" and Compact all are about 5.3" tall and use the same mags. The PDP Compact comes with barrel lengths of 4" and 5"barrels.

The PDP FS comes with 4", 4.5", and 5" barrels and are 5.7" tall and I suspect uses longer mags.

Who knew the 4", 4.6" and 5" PPQ's all use Compact frames as defined by Walther.

If I was to buy a PDP it would be either a PDP Compact with a Canadian 4.X" barrel or the 5". I would do this only because of the compatibility with my other PPQ's using the same magazine.

Tale Care

Bob
 
All info correct. PDP compact uses PPQ mags, great grip but shorter. PDP Fullsize uses longer mag, that hold 18 rounds with a flush fit, where you are legally allowed or LE / Military.
Mags are an issue right now for the PDP fullsize, the fullsize 10 round mags for Canada and Communist California are not a priority for the American market...so we wait.

That said, I don't have super big hands but prefer the fullsize PDP....if all that was made was the PDP Compact I would be perfectly happy with it as well but given a choice Fullsize for me. I don't shoot IDPA though so no issue with fitting in a box for me.

Optics...what are you going to do. For me: NRA PPC Duty optic class, I want accuracy, perfectly clear glass with little or no tint and sharp dot. No distortion at the edges of the glass or casting across a target = Delta Point Pro. Warranty Center is Korth in Alberta, super fast lifetime warranty service. Delta Point Pro is a bit higher than other sights. I like Trijicon RMR = Toughest but glass is tinted and not as clear. SRO is better, but I haven't owned one, just not a durable. Shield RMS, outstanding but can't adjust the dot, which is key for long range accuracy.

Now the tough love for everyone's favorite brand. US Army SOF in Ft. Bragg did extensive testing, big dollars and more scientific that sport shooters or internet commandos.
Results: Somewhat protected info (like many Federal Agency tests) all electronic sights fail....but the one that failed the least = Delta Point Pro. That data was for a combination of physical damage and internal / electronics failures combined.
Good part is the Walther PDP is designed with an Ultra Low cut for Optics so this mitigates the high height of the Delta Point Pro, if you choose to go that way.

Rich
 
Rich the FS would shoot in Stock Service Pistol (SSP) Division and I am sure would fit in the box with a mag. I was concerned about Compact Carry Pistol, another Division of IDPA.

Take Care

Bob
 
Has any of the slides or mounting plates failed?

The gun has been out awhile, if none by now then I would chalk this to be a red herring.

If plates have failed and I owned a PDP I would be contacting Walter.

Take Care

Bob
 
kekservative said:
ooffff boys, this is not good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cJRb8GodJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGUlZOFwkFA

TL;DR
PDP doesn't have locking lugs on the optic plate mounting surface, so all the lateral tension is held on the tiny screws
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This is true, they don't factor in counter recoil or the optic getting hit from the sides. Every single manufacturer have recoil lugs on their optic plates for this reason.

But the screws won't snap right away. Just like if you go buy a $199 red dot for it it will work for a while until they stop working.
 
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