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This is true, they don't factor in counter recoil or the optic getting hit from the sides. Every single manufacturer have recoil lugs on their optic plates for this reason.

But the screws won't snap right away. Just like if you go buy a $199 red dot for it it will work for a while until they stop working.

Counter recoil? Did you read the report?
 
So some guy does a video who may or may not have an Engineering Degree decides Walther, who have a stellar reputation for making quality firearms, do not know how to make a long lasting design to hold a Optic sight. Does that pretty much some up this topic?

How many of you guys put 50,000 rds through your guns? How many reports have you heard or read of these plates breaking? Anyone? I have not. If you have please let us all know.

In the meantime, I am sitting by my computer in my gun room waiting for the sky to fall. I heard on the internet today might be the day.

Take Care

Bob
 
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So some guy does a video who may or may not have an Engineering Degree decides Walther, who have a stellar reputation for making quality firearms, do not know how to make a long lasting design to hold a fibre optic sight. Does that pretty much some up this topic?

How many of you guys put 50,000 rds through your guns? How many reports have you heard or read of these plates breaking? Anyone? I have not. If you have please let us all know.

In the meantime, I am sitting by my computer in my gun room waiting for the sky to fall. I heard on the internet today might be the day.

Take Care

Bob

Completely agree. The only ppl that put a ton of rounds through their guns are top competition shooters. I shoot pretty much every match match in southern Ontario plus practice matches every Tuesday (excluding during covid lock downs) and I shoot maybe 15k a year and that's only through a my competition gun and the PDP is not one of them. As a service pistol and or plinking gun it'll see less than 1000 a year.
 
So some guy does a video who may or may not have an Engineering Degree decides Walther, who have a stellar reputation for making quality firearms, do not know how to make a long lasting design to hold a fibre optic sight. Does that pretty much some up this topic?

How many of you guys put 50,000 rds through your guns? How many reports have you heard or read of these plates breaking? Anyone? I have not. If you have please let us all know.

In the meantime, I am sitting by my computer in my gun room waiting for the sky to fall. I heard on the internet today might be the day.

Take Care

Bob

Fibre optics? Idk wtf you on about. This is about mounting red dots.

Every single manufacturer uses locking lugs design for their optics plates. Walther decided they know better, and someone pointed it out in fair bit of detail. The gun is still pretty new, so the time will tell if it holds or not.

The sky isn't falling, no need to dramatize the issue with cheap fanboyism.
 
Fibre optics? Idk wtf you on about. This is about mounting red dots.

Every single manufacturer uses locking lugs design for their optics plates. Walther decided they know better, and someone pointed it out in fair bit of detail. The gun is still pretty new, so the time will tell if it holds or not.

The sky isn't falling, no need to dramatize the issue with cheap fanboyism.
Ya I will amend the post. Thinking about one thing and typing another. I'll ignore your last statement. Fanboyism...really. Thanks for picking out the FO part. Half asleep at the switch. Note Walther also uses stepped chambers when most don't bother. The fact the crowd goes one way doesn't mean it is bad to go another way to achieve the same result. If you think German Engineering would not have tested out this design before going the route they did then you don't have much experience with Germans or their reputation for engineering prowess..

Take Care

Bob
 
You can rely on generic claims about Walther as a company. I rely on specific claims about product in question.

Walther's own technical paper states that it is expecting to use the front edge of the slide cut as a locking lug. The guy in the video shows several pictures where mounting plate is not actually touching that edge. You can claim that this is some kind of engineering prowess, to to me it seems like an silly design defect. Most likely a cost saving thing.
 
Most likely a cost saving thing.

It more has to do with the fact that without the lugs, they can make the optic sit lower, providing co-witness.

All Q4/Q5 Optic Ready pistols have recoil lugs and the optic sit noticeably higher compare to the PDP.

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You can rely on generic claims about Walther as a company. I rely on specific claims about product in question.

You can claim that this is some kind of engineering prowess, to to me it seems like an silly design defect. Most likely a cost saving thing.

Like Walther is going to risk it's reputation with the Military and LEO community to save fractions of pennies on a pistol they expect to sell into the Military/LEO market.

The PDP does not provide with any thing my existing stable of guns provide. I do have a couple of PPQ's but I am not married to them. They fit certain aspects of the shooting sports I enjoy. I have other makes for other applications.

The fact an amateur expert decides he has discovered a major flaw in a pistol without any evidence other than his opinion to back it up is hardly something I am going to rely on. If the gun begins to experience failures to it's slide then he is on to something, I have not read where slides or optics have been failing and I suspect neither have you or the author of the video for that matter.

Take Care

Bob


 
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It more has to do with the fact that without the lugs, they can make the optic sit lower, providing co-witness.

All Q4/Q5 Optic Ready pistols have recoil lugs and the optic sit noticeably higher compare to the PDP.
That seem counter intuitive. If you route optic screws through the lugs, that means you could make the plate itself almost paper thin.



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