Walther PPQ Q5 Match Steel Frame 9mm

You won't be shooting against them. You will be in a different class with the plastic PPQ. If you shoot IPSC.

Its on the production approved list... (prod optics too)

But to answer the previous question, Its going to go against more tanfos and shadows than m&P or G17s....
 
How so? If you don't put an optic on it, shouldn't it be regular production class?

There is production lite, for plastic guns or others under a certain weight and production for the heavier metal guns. New rules this year. Im not sure of the exact titles without looking it up.
 
"Whats the difference between this one and the pro model? "

From what I could see on their website, the Pro model has a flared magwell and an extended mag.
That's just from a cursory glance.
I would opt for the Pro as well.

If i’m going to get one...which I’m now pretty sure I will ...think i’ll wait for the Pro model as well.

For the last few years i’ve shot the polymer PPQ 5” in 3 Gun matches because i like the gun and it’s so light on a fully loaded belt. But have reluctantly decided it’s just too light and I shoot way better with a heavier steel frame gun - like the Shadow 2 - which I shoot in IPSC. So this year I plan to start shooting my S2 in 3 Gun and IPSC.

But I do prefer a striker fire HG in 3 Gun, because I can just dump it and go without having to engage a dedicated safety. And this new 42 oz steel frame PPQ Match seems ideally suited for 3 Gun, especially the Pro version with the flared magwell, which was my other gripe with my polymer PPQ. A heavier SF PPQ Match with a 5” barrel and flared magwell seems ideally suited for 3G matches...which I guess Walther figured out.

Now that i’ve convinced myself I ‘need’ the SF Pro version, wish Walther would hurry up and get them in stores up here ASAP :)
 
There is production lite, for plastic guns or others under a certain weight and production for the heavier metal guns. New rules this year. Im not sure of the exact titles without looking it up.

Not untrue, but not an absolute truth. Production optics is still provisional - but will likely be here to stay. As far as I can see there will be no Production Light - only “PO Light” - and clubs can exclude divisions during a match. IPSC AB has a match scheduled for next Sunday with no PCC included. (Or production light)

So yes, $500-$700 plastic guns will still be competing against steel frames, including the Stock III extremes, PPQ Match/SF, and Shadow 2 Orange
 
If i’m going to get one...which I’m now pretty sure I will ...think i’ll wait for the Pro model as well.

For the last few years i’ve shot the polymer PPQ 5” in 3 Gun matches because i like the gun and it’s so light on a fully loaded belt. But have reluctantly decided it’s just too light and I shoot way better with a heavier steel frame gun - like the Shadow 2 - which I shoot in IPSC. So this year I plan to start shooting my S2 in 3 Gun and IPSC.

But I do prefer a striker fire HG in 3 Gun, because I can just dump it and go without having to engage a dedicated safety. And this new 42 oz steel frame PPQ Match seems ideally suited for 3 Gun, especially the Pro version with the flared magwell, which was my other gripe with my polymer PPQ. A heavier SF PPQ Match with a 5” barrel and flared magwell seems ideally suited for 3G matches...which I guess Walther figured out.

Now that i’ve convinced myself I ‘need’ the SF Pro version, wish Walther would hurry up and get them in stores up here ASAP :)

I started IPSC with a PPQ M2 and moved to an S2. I am also accustomed to the weight of a steel frame. I started 3Gun last year and would also prefer striker fired and no safety. Only issue to getting this new Walther is the 2 grand...
 
Not untrue, but not an absolute truth. Production optics is still provisional - but will likely be here to stay. As far as I can see there will be no Production Light - only “PO Light” - and clubs can exclude divisions during a match. IPSC AB has a match scheduled for next Sunday with no PCC included. (Or production light)

So yes, $500-$700 plastic guns will still be competing against steel frames, including the Stock III extremes, PPQ Match/SF, and Shadow 2 Orange

Yes that seems to be correct at this time although there has been plenty of discussion regarding production light as well. My only interest is P.O. so the other does not apply to me. My opinion is that production light will eventually be included if there is enough interest and enough guns to split the division. Interesting times.
 
I started IPSC with a PPQ M2 and moved to an S2. I am also accustomed to the weight of a steel frame. I started 3Gun last year and would also prefer striker fired and no safety. Only issue to getting this new Walther is the 2 grand...

Agreed. The two+ grand does make me pause, but figure by the time the Pro model makes it up here i’ll have justified purchase somehow.
 
It’s a shame because at 2 grand you have every option of competition gun out there if your not opposed to buying used. The influx of the SF will make the Q5 Match polymer flood the used market at under $1K as well. Leaves another $1K for guns, gear or ammo. Great innovation developing a steel frame striker fire but I don’t feel like paying for R&D on an existing platform, made from a different material.
 
I am not too sure what causes the price variance of the polymer compared to the SF. I think it was a bad move on Walthers part as it will NOT dominate the Production/Production Optics division at that price point. Smart move would have been to have it competitively priced with the Shadow 2.
 
I am not too sure what causes the price variance of the polymer compared to the SF. I think it was a bad move on Walthers part as it will NOT dominate the Production/Production Optics division at that price point. Smart move would have been to have it competitively priced with the Shadow 2.

The last thing I want to do is be that guy who argues with everyone who disagrees about the SF version but cmon. Do you really think any company can machine a highly complex lower for the same price as a molded piece of metal reinforced plastic ? Price point has nothing to do with dominating a division. Performance will determine what dominates. And that is the unanswered question.

Cheap does not win matches. Otherwise no one would have made the Shadow the number one gun in Canada for production. It was expensive. The Walther is a lot less than the top Tanfo's which are very popular in Eastern Canada. Serious competitors will purchase whatever gun they perceive as giving them the greatest advantage. Walther hit the mark exactly where they should be considering what you are getting.
 
Looking at it, side of the slide without "walther" on it looks clean, they should have put the the name somewhere else so both sides had that look.
 
We found Dara Holster to fit quite nicely on the Q5 Steel Frame!

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