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There we are with the 3 different triggers.
GX1
Laufenschiebe
UIT
GX1
Laufenschiebe
UIT
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Yes, i know i have some cleaning to do 
I must have packed some dust in the cases... time for a vaccumn and a thorough cleaning with charcoal lighter fluid.
I must have packed some dust in the cases... time for a vaccumn and a thorough cleaning with charcoal lighter fluid.Your GX1 and boar gun appear to have the same trigger except for the lever itself. Hard to argue that this trigger has been improved upon even with the new KK500. The UIT appears to have the dual range release adjuster ahead of the housing.
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I would love to try a KK3 or 5 gun.
Sadly, I am not a good shot, so most of my time is spent with zen group therapy
or molesting gophers with lead.It's unfortunate that there is such an absence of reliable Walther information about Walther match rimfire rifles. We do have some "official" Walther info from owners manuals, but this doesn't reveal any information about trigger model numbers. To compare, there is much more available about the various Anschutz triggers that have been available on match rimfire rifles. Sometimes different trigger models have differences that appear to be so minor that it can be difficult for people to distinguish, and this is just as true of Walther as it is of Anschutz triggers. For example, at first glance there can be little to distinguish between Anschutz 5071, 5075, 5018, and 5020 triggers that have been available since the 1980s. The 14xx triggers are also similar enough that it can be hard to tell them apart. I am no expert with regard to either make of rifle and there may well be inaccuracies here.
To begin with, it may be useful to show "official" Walther-produced information.
I surmise that Walther has used only two essentially different triggers. (I am unfamiliar with a "Laufenschiebe" trigger. There are no references to it that I could find; perhaps there is a misspelling.)
There is the trigger with the "plunger" in front of the trigger guard. Owners of the Walther KKJ-T, a lightweight sporter style single shot target rifle produced in the 1960s and often competed in the same category of sanctioned matches as the Anschutz 64 models, the CIL Anschutz 190, and to a lesser extent, the CIL Anschutz 180.
It may well be that Walther used this trigger on the early KK Match rifles and perhaps other models.
Here's a couple of Walthers, early 1960s KK International Match models, a variant of the fairly common-in-Canada KKM
I'll continue with another post.
To begin with, it may be useful to show "official" Walther-produced information.
I surmise that Walther has used only two essentially different triggers. (I am unfamiliar with a "Laufenschiebe" trigger. There are no references to it that I could find; perhaps there is a misspelling.)
There is the trigger with the "plunger" in front of the trigger guard. Owners of the Walther KKJ-T, a lightweight sporter style single shot target rifle produced in the 1960s and often competed in the same category of sanctioned matches as the Anschutz 64 models, the CIL Anschutz 190, and to a lesser extent, the CIL Anschutz 180.
It may well be that Walther used this trigger on the early KK Match rifles and perhaps other models.
Here's a couple of Walthers, early 1960s KK International Match models, a variant of the fairly common-in-Canada KKM
I'll continue with another post.
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The second model of Walther match trigger, with at least two variants (it's unfortunate we don't have model numbers), is the one that is seen on many different models of Walther match rifles. I suspect, but can't know for certain, that these triggers came with different mounting configurations. Perhaps they varied with model of rifle or changing over time or both.
The basic version of the trigger is found on UIT Spezials from the late 1960s and 1970s. The trigger shown below is from a 1972-74 era UIT Spezial
The trigger shown below is from a 1985 Walther KK MS, a Silhouette rifle
These triggers do not have a Let Off Point Adjustment Screw, part no. 16 shown in the second and third images in my previous post (#6). The cross section illustration is reproduced below.
Triggers with this screw are I suspect a second variant of the Walther match trigger
This Let Off Point Adjustment Screw is found on the GX1 trigger shown in post #1 and in what was called the "Laufenschiebe" trigger, both of which look the same to me. Here is a GX1 2 stage trigger from an early 1990s rifle that shows that screw
I didn't notice that screw before this morning when I was looking more closely at the Walther cross-section illustration. I noticed that the Let Off Point Adjustment Screw was also on the Walther KKM trigger. Unfortunately, I don't remember if this was on the 1962 KKM I had or the undated (pre-1961) KKM I also had.
I have probably missed things, and of course I welcome corrections.
Some of the triggers shown above are from rifles I've had, others from pictures posted on RFC. I've only posted rifles that have been identified by the people who originally posted about them. I'll make a post that shows some of the Walther models I've had.
The basic version of the trigger is found on UIT Spezials from the late 1960s and 1970s. The trigger shown below is from a 1972-74 era UIT Spezial
The trigger shown below is from a 1985 Walther KK MS, a Silhouette rifle
These triggers do not have a Let Off Point Adjustment Screw, part no. 16 shown in the second and third images in my previous post (#6). The cross section illustration is reproduced below.
Triggers with this screw are I suspect a second variant of the Walther match trigger
This Let Off Point Adjustment Screw is found on the GX1 trigger shown in post #1 and in what was called the "Laufenschiebe" trigger, both of which look the same to me. Here is a GX1 2 stage trigger from an early 1990s rifle that shows that screw
I didn't notice that screw before this morning when I was looking more closely at the Walther cross-section illustration. I noticed that the Let Off Point Adjustment Screw was also on the Walther KKM trigger. Unfortunately, I don't remember if this was on the 1962 KKM I had or the undated (pre-1961) KKM I also had.
I have probably missed things, and of course I welcome corrections.
Some of the triggers shown above are from rifles I've had, others from pictures posted on RFC. I've only posted rifles that have been identified by the people who originally posted about them. I'll make a post that shows some of the Walther models I've had.
Referring to the Walther diagram shown earlier, the 3 adjusters are #14 Trigger Weight Adjustment Screw, #15 Trigger Slack Adjustment Screw, and #16 Let-off Point Adjustment Screw. The GX1, Running Boar, and KKM triggers have a third adjusting screw, while the UIT Spezial and KK Silhouette have two.
There we are with the 3 different triggers.
GX1
Laufenschiebe
To clarify my point you may want to refer to posts 3 & 4 in the thread.
Perhaps Walther during this era was in the practice of using whatever was available for their various models. My KK Silh. models , boar guns and GX1 all have the same model trigger with 3 adjusters and a 4th clamp screw on the trigger shoe/blade as in the photos above. My UIT Spezial also has the same trigger.
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Here are posts #3 and #4 in that order:
I thought so at first.... but Look closer. Hint count the screw heads
I'm not sure that this clarifies anything anyone has said.
What I have said was that there were two very different Walther match triggers. One had the "plunger" in front of the trigger. The other match trigger came in two variants, one with three adjusting screws (identified above) and the other with only two. That third screw is the Let-off Point Adjustment screw.
Since you did not say anything about your KK Silhouette rifle trigger prior to your most recent post, I had no way of knowing or intuiting that it, too, had the third screw. Please understand that my assertion that the KK Silhouette rifle had the two screw trigger was based on the KK Silhouette rifle I had, shown in post #8 above. That rifle had the two screw trigger. Obviously I made the mistake of thinking that all UIT Spezials had the two screw triggers. I re-examined my records and saw that one of the three UIT Spezials I've had did have a three screw trigger.
UIT Spezial (1974)
It would appear that your suggestion that "Perhaps Walther during this era was in the practice of using whatever was available for their various models" is quite true. In that case it would be no surprise to find KKM models like the one shown in post #9 having triggers with only two screws as well.
This thread clearly illustrates the challenges of identifying some of the key characteristics of Walther match rimfire rifles. Triggers are not necessarily the same between rifles of the same model.
Fortunately not all German match rifle manufacturers are as parsimonious as Walther when it comes to information about their products. Anschutz provides more detailed information for their products.
I concluded my last post with the note that Anschutz provides more detailed information for their products. That's a very good thing. To illustrate the difficulty of trying to determine trigger models without information, consider these triggers.
Each of the following is a different two stage trigger found on various Anschutz Match 54 rifles (since the 1980s). One of the triggers is used on the Fortner action rifles. The trigger blades are interchangeable, according to the user's preference.
Below are single stage triggers found on Anschutz Match 54 action rifles.
To a casual viewer all these triggers no doubt look alike. They do have two numbers stamped on the trigger housing to identify them, but often it can be very difficult to distinguish between them by pictures only, especially if the pictures don't show the model number.
Anschutz provides information about each of the triggers and how to adjust them. Among the triggers above, the one with the lightest pull weight, according to Anschutz, is 90 grams or 3.2 ounces. It may well be possible to tweak them lighter.
To sum up, the point is that it's too bad Walther hasn't made available similar information because there are a lot of similarities between match triggers, many of which are not very apparent or discernable.
Each of the following is a different two stage trigger found on various Anschutz Match 54 rifles (since the 1980s). One of the triggers is used on the Fortner action rifles. The trigger blades are interchangeable, according to the user's preference.
Below are single stage triggers found on Anschutz Match 54 action rifles.
To a casual viewer all these triggers no doubt look alike. They do have two numbers stamped on the trigger housing to identify them, but often it can be very difficult to distinguish between them by pictures only, especially if the pictures don't show the model number.
Anschutz provides information about each of the triggers and how to adjust them. Among the triggers above, the one with the lightest pull weight, according to Anschutz, is 90 grams or 3.2 ounces. It may well be possible to tweak them lighter.
To sum up, the point is that it's too bad Walther hasn't made available similar information because there are a lot of similarities between match triggers, many of which are not very apparent or discernable.
