Wanstalls Retail Store Now Offering Financing

The interest it is generally calculated for 1 year. So 201$ for 6 month it is 402$ for 1 year.
And the actual cost it is even higher for the rifle, considering that the principal is going down every month.
 
The retailer should respect their customers. They advertise 4.99% interest. This is completely not true.
Their advertising, related to this service, it is misleading.
 
1000 +120.00 HST +25 = 1145 X 0.05 interest 57.25 =1202.25 divided by 6 = 200.38 per month the all 6 month loan actually coast only 82.25 total or 13.71 per month... This is pretty affordable credit, when you do your # right... JP.
 
Just get a line of credit at your bank/credit union if you need to finance a small purchase like this. It's nice that they are offering it, but there are more negatives than positives.
 
Bitter-sweet temptation. Aimed specifically at the ones that can least afford it.
The cash challenged customers allways end up paying more, and the rich get richer..........

Having said that..........where do I apply?
 
Can you imagine having to reposes a firearm that someone hasn't been making their payments on?

Given there is no LGR who's to say a guy doesn't sell it and it disappears.


Could get interesting.

This is my thinking too. Finance a $5000 rifle, sell it the next day and stop making the payments.
 
This is my thinking too. Finance a $5000 rifle, sell it the next day and stop making the payments.

Oh yeah, they would just say "Oh you sold it? No worries then" And that would be the end of it... You do know people do that with cars/boats and other things all the time right? It doesnt end well for them.
 
Perhaps some confusion here that it might be nice to clear up:

This is not aimed at "inventing" cash for those who cannot afford an item -- this is aimed at making items accessible to our customers who can afford the item, but whose families, bills, and commitments make it hard to put out the $1000 or $2000 immediately in one fell swoop. The impetus for our store to look into this in the first place was discussions with customers who know what they can and cannot afford, and who wished they could make installments on a special item here and there -- and somehow getting to use the item they're paying for right away. The bonus of ensuring they can secure immediately what may be less available later became apparent soon after. I think we all know how hard it has been to get products for the last 18 months out of the US!

For a luxury or a hobby, most of us have found out how much we can afford to spare on our interests, but we have important requirements for each paycheck. Mortgages, tuition, children... all of these expenses are non-negotiable, and sometimes make it so we can't spend a whole paycheck on fun; however, we can spend a part of our paychecks on fun. How much that amount will be is different for all of us, but that money is valuable to each of us. Our goal here isn't to push people to bad decisions (the opposite, actually, which I'll cover in a moment), but to offer a tool that can help make that $100-200 a shooter might have available each month into $1000-2000 to get his or her hands on a new Tikka for hunting season or a slick new STI for IPSC instead of limiting that $100-200 to an SKS or a Magpul stock piece by piece. This same shooter could save for ten months to achieve the same goal, but at that time perhaps the rifle isn't available, or hunting season has passed, and regardless of the circumstance he or she has spent most of a year without this gun they could have been enjoying. There are many shooters out there who can afford a Boberg pistol, but might not be able to comfortable squeeze it into one or two paychecks -- the $1299 pricetag isn't the problem, but $1299 all at once is. For these shooters, breaking it over six months is an easy call. As with any service, there is a cost -- there is a service fee for most things in life. But the goal here is not to make an immediate sale at the cost of a shooter's credit, but rather to give our customers another option and to help make things accessible.


A good reminder is that, as a business, we thrive because of our happy and successful customers. Just as we would not be doing well as a business if we sold terrible products that our shooters could not be successful with on range day, we cannot be successful if we were to do anything to negatively impact our customers' financial futures -- a bankrupt shooter isn't going to come in and buy ammo, or a scope, or a gun, and that does not help anyone. More importantly, we consider the grand majority of our customers to be our friends. We are on a first name basis with almost everyone who calls or comes in the door, and if it's your first time calling or visiting, it won't be long until we know your name and you know ours. Forcing bad decisions on friends is not a good way to keep friends. We will always explain the nature of the program to our customers, and we will always work with our customers to ensure they make a choice that is right for them. It is beneficial to us as a store and as members of the community to deal with our customers in an honest manner. As shooters, we thrive because of our good relationships with the people we share so much with.


We're more than happy to answer questions about this program any time in-store at our retail location. It's just a tool for people to realize their goals on a different timeline or in a different manner -- it's not going to replace cash and Visa any time soon!


Cheers,
Daniel
 
Oh yeah, they would just say "Oh you sold it? No worries then" And that would be the end of it... You do know people do that with cars/boats and other things all the time right? It doesnt end well for them.

I'm not saying I plan do this. :rolleyes: The poster I quoted brings up a good point about the lack tracing the gun for which the loan was granted. If you did the same with a car it gets registered to the new owner, maybe boats too, but I don't have a habit of taking out loans on things I can't afford so I wouldn't know how it works.
 
Caramel, with all my respect, their website states "Loan Amount", so that 1000$ are tax in.

On their form it is clearly stated loan amount 1000.00 / interest 4.99% / British Columbia sot the finance amount is 1000+12% HST +25.00 @ 4.99%, if you change province in the calculator the amount change... JP.
 
I'm not sure why some are so up-in-arms about this. It's just another financing option for adults, with free-will, to choose from.
I don't need to use it, but some might, and that's fine by me.
And who cares about how the finance company deals with those who default? Not my problem...
 
I'm not saying I plan do this. :rolleyes: The poster I quoted brings up a good point about the lack tracing the gun for which the loan was granted. If you did the same with a car it gets registered to the new owner, maybe boats too, but I don't have a habit of taking out loans on things I can't afford so I wouldn't know how it works.

Boat only gets registered if you insure it. But I wasnt trying to be an ass or anything, but when collection time comes, they will get their money one way or another, the finance company does not care about the gun, just what is owed to them. Also, if you sell the car, they cant go take the car from the new owner, they go to the person who owes them money. I have never personally dealt with any situation like this, but I heard a buddy had his brand new truck taken once because he owed money, he had to pay the cash to get his vehicle back in a certain amount of time.
 
Perhaps some confusion here that it might be nice to clear up:

This is not aimed at "inventing" cash for those who cannot afford an item -- this is aimed at making items accessible to our customers who can afford the item, but whose families, bills, and commitments make it hard to put out the $1000 or $2000 immediately in one fell swoop. The impetus for our store to look into this in the first place was discussions with customers who know what they can and cannot afford, and who wished they could make installments on a special item here and there -- and somehow getting to use the item they're paying for right away. The bonus of ensuring they can secure immediately what may be less available later became apparent soon after. I think we all know how hard it has been to get products for the last 18 months out of the US!

For a luxury or a hobby, most of us have found out how much we can afford to spare on our interests, but we have important requirements for each paycheck. Mortgages, tuition, children... all of these expenses are non-negotiable, and sometimes make it so we can't spend a whole paycheck on fun; however, we can spend a part of our paychecks on fun. How much that amount will be is different for all of us, but that money is valuable to each of us. Our goal here isn't to push people to bad decisions (the opposite, actually, which I'll cover in a moment), but to offer a tool that can help make that $100-200 a shooter might have available each month into $1000-2000 to get his or her hands on a new Tikka for hunting season or a slick new STI for IPSC instead of limiting that $100-200 to an SKS or a Magpul stock piece by piece. This same shooter could save for ten months to achieve the same goal, but at that time perhaps the rifle isn't available, or hunting season has passed, and regardless of the circumstance he or she has spent most of a year without this gun they could have been enjoying. There are many shooters out there who can afford a Boberg pistol, but might not be able to comfortable squeeze it into one or two paychecks -- the $1299 pricetag isn't the problem, but $1299 all at once is. For these shooters, breaking it over six months is an easy call. As with any service, there is a cost -- there is a service fee for most things in life. But the goal here is not to make an immediate sale at the cost of a shooter's credit, but rather to give our customers another option and to help make things accessible.


A good reminder is that, as a business, we thrive because of our happy and successful customers. Just as we would not be doing well as a business if we sold terrible products that our shooters could not be successful with on range day, we cannot be successful if we were to do anything to negatively impact our customers' financial futures -- a bankrupt shooter isn't going to come in and buy ammo, or a scope, or a gun, and that does not help anyone. More importantly, we consider the grand majority of our customers to be our friends. We are on a first name basis with almost everyone who calls or comes in the door, and if it's your first time calling or visiting, it won't be long until we know your name and you know ours. Forcing bad decisions on friends is not a good way to keep friends. We will always explain the nature of the program to our customers, and we will always work with our customers to ensure they make a choice that is right for them. It is beneficial to us as a store and as members of the community to deal with our customers in an honest manner. As shooters, we thrive because of our good relationships with the people we share so much with.


We're more than happy to answer questions about this program any time in-store at our retail location. It's just a tool for people to realize their goals on a different timeline or in a different manner -- it's not going to replace cash and Visa any time soon!


Cheers,
Daniel

this is why people shop and will always shop here
 
I just had a look at the loan rate calculator that they have a link for.....not sure if it is an oversight but all the provinces and territories are listed.....with the exception to Quebec?
 
Why are so many people against this? If you don't like it don't use it, easy as that. You can pay however you want, weather its straight up cash, credit card, money loan w/e this is just another option and no one if forcing you to use it. Its not like this is now the ONLY option to buying a firearm. I for one love as many payment options as possible, the same way i love as many retailers and firearm choices.
 
If the interest rate is better than the credit card or even matches the bank my wallet will get a butt hurt. I could see it and hear it now. ...

Wife: so how much did that gun cost?
CGNer: Not much at all $88......(mumbling in a low voice: for 60 months) ;)



You know a line of credit has a WAY lower interest rate right.
Just sayin...
 
Oh yeah, they would just say "Oh you sold it? No worries then" And that would be the end of it... You do know people do that with cars/boats and other things all the time right? It doesnt end well for them.

Which is why you don't purchase high prices second hand items without checking for lean status or leen not sure on the spelling
 
I can't understand the resentment being expressed here. Tell me which of the nay-sayers have never used a credit card and never missed a payment. I must have missed the anti-Mastercard/VISA threads where there was an outrage because of their interest rates? Having a credit card in your wallet gives you the freedom to choose, just as Wanstalls providing credit does. What you do with that option is up to you, and your individual situation. It's easy to judge without having worn another person's shoes, and I'm sure many people put their firearm purchases on credit cards as it is. I'd take 6 months @ 4.99% over 19.99% any day.

Good on Wanstalls for providing a service to -as bcbravo2zero appropriately put it- adults, with free-will, to choose.

If their offering this offends you, or has somehow disrupted your life as it would seem judging by some of the responses, carry on your rant to another thread and have some respect...
 
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