Want a 45-70, best options?

I have owned Marlin, Rossi and Henry, I still have my Henry and of those choices I like my Henry, I prefer tube loading but Henry's now also have the option of a side gate. There are other more expensive options that may be better Winchester Browning and the replicas, just more money than I will spend.

Im with you on the Henry, mine is a new model side gate, very nice indeed, sold my Marlins!!
 
Gotta love the fun & sound of big lead hitting home. Meat in the freezer be an asset to boot.;)


2 different bullets that shoot very well in my Marlin. I find the FTX a lot softer than the hard cast Bullet Barn offerings. While it works great on Black Bears and deer the Hard Cast is better for big critters like moose.


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I run hardcast 405 gr Bullet Barn in my Pedersoli 86/71 & my load shoots great from 'er. Good thing I have a decent stock of Bullet Barn projectiles from before the company was sold to new owner. ;) Folks with the extra cash should give the Pedersoli a go. They are worth it fer sure.
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.375 Win 260 gr, 9.3 mm 270 gr & 45-70 405 gr Bullet Barn hardcast.
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Don’t discount the inexpensive single shot break action.

I recently purchased a Rossi in .308.

Felt recoil is actually less than any of my bolt or lever actions, and accuracy is adequate.

That said, the recommendations above are excellent.
 
i love tossing 350 grain sub sonic down to the 10" 200 gong off hand out of a 12" barrel. Seems to get peoples attention too. :) super fun round if you reload or have lots a spare cash!!
 
I own 3, .45-70's, a Remington #4 Rolling Block single shot rifle of course, with a 26" barrel, a Winchester M1886 Deluxe stunningly gorgeous rifle and then a Marlin M1895XLR, which has the 22" barrel.

For hunting in the bush, shots out to 150 yards, the .45-70 is an absolute beast. Kills like thunder, DRT type response from critters.

Of the 3 rifles I own, the HUNTING rifle to get, if you can pry one from an owner, is the Marlin M1895XLR. Far superior to the Marlin M1895GS (18-1/2" barrel Guide Gun). I had the Guide Gun, sold it. The M1895XLR is simply superior.

The Marlin M1895 is the way to go, since you can scope it. A low power variable, like 1.5-6x, 2.5-8x is the way to go.

If you ever see one for sale, buy it. You would not regret it (assuming it some fool hasn't screwed it up somehow).
 
Speaking of walking around .45-70 rigs, I’ve got my GSBL or Guide Gun with Big Loop, stainless treatment, and FNC - Ferric Nitro Carburizing (that was a mouthful) finish on this Big Loop guide gun.

It’s handy and this past season I have hunted with it for 5 days. I’m getting older in my post PPCLI Infantry rucksack fun days, and heavier rigs stay home. This carry GSBL is perfect for the dense bush of the Pickerel River , ON area.

300 grain Copper Plated Campro .458 boooolits are not expensive to reload and I can do about 75 cents per round. Lots cheaper than buying factory fodder!


Here we go… I hope my pictures don’t come out upside down…. :eek:


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That’s the GSBL when it just got unwrapped from it’s factory box. And here I am trying to hunt (I’m not that good at it) , but I’m still having a great time being out there with my crew.


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Buy what works for you and your hunting needs, budget, availability, game selection, ammunition supply, and finally LCV (looks cool value). Peace Be The Journey!


Cheers, Barney

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L-R: Ruger No.1 .303Brit, Win M1895 .270Win, WinM1895 .30-06, Win M1895 .405Win, Win M1894 .375Win, Marlin M1895GS .45-70, Marlin M1895XLR .45-70 and Marlin M39A .22LR


Picture is just for comparison between the stubby 18-1/2" barrel Marlin M1895 Guide Gun, and the Marlin 1895XLR.

I have fired many, many rounds at the shooting range, and some on big game with the 2 Marlins.

The XLR is just a far superior shooting rifle, due to the longer barrel. "From my cold dead hands" applies to it (and that beautiful Win M1894 .375Win, my favourite walk-about rifle).

If Ruger(/) is re-producing the M1895XLR, that is the rifle to get, in my opinion.

If looks is important, get yourself a Win M1886 Deluxe, in .45-70. I bought one of those, and it's just the most gorgeous rifle I own... and of course the M1886 action is a legend of it's own.





Edit to add: One thing about the Marlin M1895's, they have a Cross-Bolt safety. It's just a small 'button' that protrudes out the left side of the receiver, and when pushed in to the right, it blocks the hammer from striking the primer.

I missed on a big black bear one time due to that damn thing!!

Some people get all crazy and take the action apart to remove that, but there is a far easier solution.
Just get the correct size (I forget exactly) Snap Ring, that cross-bolt safety actually has a small groove in it, just for that purpose.
Just put your snap ring on it, into that groove and you can easily disable that.

Needless to say, after missing on the black bear, mine are disabled!
 
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L-R: Ruger No.1 .303Brit, Win M1895 .270Win, WinM1895 .30-06, Win M1895 .405Win, Win M1894 .375Win, Marlin M1895GS .45-70, Marlin M1895XLR .45-70 and Marlin M39A .22LR


Picture is just for comparison between the stubby 18-1/2" barrel Marlin M1895 Guide Gun, and the Marlin 1895XLR.

I have fired many, many rounds at the shooting range, and some on big game with the 2 Marlins.

The XLR is just a far superior shooting rifle, due to the longer barrel. "From my cold dead hands" applies to it (and that beautiful Win M1894 .375Win, my favourite walk-about rifle).

If Ruger(/) is re-producing the M1895XLR, that is the rifle to get, in my opinion.

If looks is important, get yourself a Win M1886 Deluxe, in .45-70. I bought one of those, and it's just the most gorgeous rifle I own... and of course the M1886 action is a legend of it's own.





Edit to add: One thing about the Marlin M1895's, they have a Cross-Bolt safety. It's just a small 'button' that protrudes out the left side of the receiver, and when pushed in to the right, it blocks the hammer from striking the primer.

I missed on a big black bear one time due to that damn thing!!

Some people get all crazy and take the action apart to remove that, but there is a far easier solution.
Just get the correct size (I forget exactly) Snap Ring, that cross-bolt safety actually has a small groove in it, just for that purpose.
Just put your snap ring on it, into that groove and you can easily disable that.

Needless to say, after missing on the black bear, mine are disabled!

A common rubber O-ring that any equipment/automotive repair shop will have in stock works as well ( no snap ring pliers needed, just roll into the groove with fingers), just get one that fits tight.
thousands of Cowboy shooters use O-rings on their M94's. Both of my wife's 94's have an O-ring, one has had the same one on for going on 20 yrs now and it has never allowed the safety to be inadvertently engaged.
 
I have had a couple dozen .45-70's over the past 4 plus decades, B-78's, No.1's, 1886, 1895, Henry and a few others I am disremembering... the only one remaining is the Ruger No.1-S with 22" C-barrel. It is just about the perfect balance of feel and performance for my taste and purposes. I have shot many loads, but pretty much stick to the Speer #2478 350 HCFN over H4198 for deer and bear, when the mood strikes.
 

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^ Beauty lineup Hoyt!

A common rubber O-ring that any equipment/automotive repair shop will have in stock works as well ( no snap ring pliers needed, just roll into the groove with fingers), just get one that fits tight.
thousands of Cowboy shooters use O-rings on their M94's. Both of my wife's 94's have an O-ring, one has had the same one on for going on 20 yrs now and it has never allowed the safety to be inadvertently engaged.

While an O-ring will definitely work, over time it will deteriorate and eventually will fall off.

The snap ring is just as easy, and will definitely never fall off and surprise you.

My $0.02.
 
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