Wanting to buy 9mm ruger pc carbine
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Hi there,
I'm not much familiar with PCC or 9mm Luger caliber. But the take down option attracts me. As I already have a 10/22 magpul backpacker and like it.
QUESTION: do you think the PCC in 9mm would work to take a wt deer under 100 yds range? For sure, I'm thinking of using HP-style bullets.
Or it is just a plink toy?
I hunt spot-n-stalk style quite often during deer season and thinking to try something compact and maneuverable instead pf my regular bolt rifle.
I'm not much familiar with PCC or 9mm Luger caliber. But the take down option attracts me. As I already have a 10/22 magpul backpacker and like it.
QUESTION: do you think the PCC in 9mm would work to take a wt deer under 100 yds range? For sure, I'm thinking of using HP-style bullets.
Or it is just a plink toy?
I hunt spot-n-stalk style quite often during deer season and thinking to try something compact and maneuverable instead pf my regular bolt rifle.
I got a bit brave a long while back and started a thread about using a 9mm PCC for deer. Got a lot of feedback, much of it quite hostile, some of it more open-minded. The consensus was that no, one is a hateful and cruel animal abuser if one dares even think about using 9mm on deer. Read the thread if you like:
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...ompared-to-buckshot-for-deer-hunting-thoughts
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...ompared-to-buckshot-for-deer-hunting-thoughts
In my opinion if there were no rules and if i was going to use one of these things. I would use ball ammo over HP while hunting. The HP seems to open up too quick and ball doesn't punch through a coyote. On deer you'd be taking spine shots not a lot of people are that good.
Mine is great... actually its my third one lol.
Accurarcy on all three has been hovering around 1 moa with quility ammo... like pmc broonze quility lol..
I ring stee, out to 200m with it... 300 its just to wish washy in the wind and basically at the bottom of my scope.
Im running a Elcan os4x on mine... perfect pairing..
Accurarcy on all three has been hovering around 1 moa with quility ammo... like pmc broonze quility lol..
I ring stee, out to 200m with it... 300 its just to wish washy in the wind and basically at the bottom of my scope.
Im running a Elcan os4x on mine... perfect pairing..
The 9mm has enough power to ethicaly kill a deer... the issue is projectile avalibility.
Ball ammo... thats out, which means so is 95% of your bullet choices lol.
Most of the self defence rounds dont penitrate for ####, but rather just blow a chunk of the target out... effective on people... meh on deer... not good for filling the stew pot either...
So whats left? Hand load wad cutters and target HPs? Neither are great either... more effective then the other options but still...
Hornady and federal both hace a 9mm hunting round... but whens the last time you saw it imported to canada? Thats right, me neither....
Deer have one of the fastest (and most effective) clooting blood of all mammals... its hydrostatic shock that does them in or often infection.... i will never count on a deer bleeding out to make it drop within my "im going to find it" range
That alone if why my thoughts on hunting with my pc9 pretty much stalled.
I think if you wanted the ruger for hunting 40 sw would be the better option, just because the selection for 10mm projectiles includes more hunting sutable ones.
This is just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
For years, I was pining on this gun, waiting for it to come on sale or even be available. I love Ruger to the point I even directly own stock in the company.
I thought it was a pretty innovative product, coming apart in two pieces. More compelling than the TNW ASR, which to me was meh...
After having the PC Carbine for a while, I noticed a few things which I don't like. And to clarify, I have the MLOK aluminum handguard version with the extendible stock.
1. I absolutely hate the take down and clean mechanics. It needs tools but not just that, Ruger recommends a certain Torque pressure in tightening. 65-inch pounds on the two main bolts - yes that's in the manual. My FAT wrench is on its max torque to the point where I will be stripping those bolts soon...as a result I don't use the PC Carbine anymore because I don't want to clean it anymore. Sure I can ignore the 65-inch pounds recommendation and torque it less.
2. Flimsy internal parts. In particular the shock buffer and the c-clip. Plastic fantastic. I swear I was going to break it each time. MCarbo makes a replacement kit for the shock buffer and c-clip which are metal. Think it's like $30 or so. That clearly is as a result of demand for a better mouse trap. Those kits get sold out often.
3. The weight ergonomics and distribution are off. I find it front heavy. Again, the MLOK aluminum handguard version. I have held the non aluminum handguard version and it's much better.
4. I wish I kept the Ruger magazine - I have the Ruger magwell but I traded the Ruger Magazine for a Magpul Glock one. It's a trade I wish I never made, in retrospect, even based on the very imbalanced value. I still have the Ruger magwell. Reason why I mention all this is because for my gun anyways, there are issues with the last round bolt hold open with the Glock magwell and Glock mags (doesn't matter if it's OEM Glock G4/G5, or Promag, or Magpul.
5. Accuracy is nothing to write home about. My new FPC has amazing accuracy and makes the Ruger PC carbine's performance look like an SKS.
6. I don't care about looks but the PC Carbine just looks like a plain jane. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but I enjoy guns that have a degree of innovative uniqueness. The PC Carbine is by no means a bad gun, but it's not the cat's meow that I once envisioned it was. That could also be my own personal tastes changing over time, but the aspects I noted above do contribute to my overall impressions on the gun.
Since I got the PC Carbine I got the FX9 (which is the easiest and fastest takedown of any PCC I own) and my most recent Smith & Wesson FPC, which I just love, love, love. Will probably end up selling the PC Carbine since I found guns which I enjoy shooting better.
For years, I was pining on this gun, waiting for it to come on sale or even be available. I love Ruger to the point I even directly own stock in the company.
I thought it was a pretty innovative product, coming apart in two pieces. More compelling than the TNW ASR, which to me was meh...
After having the PC Carbine for a while, I noticed a few things which I don't like. And to clarify, I have the MLOK aluminum handguard version with the extendible stock.
1. I absolutely hate the take down and clean mechanics. It needs tools but not just that, Ruger recommends a certain Torque pressure in tightening. 65-inch pounds on the two main bolts - yes that's in the manual. My FAT wrench is on its max torque to the point where I will be stripping those bolts soon...as a result I don't use the PC Carbine anymore because I don't want to clean it anymore. Sure I can ignore the 65-inch pounds recommendation and torque it less.
2. Flimsy internal parts. In particular the shock buffer and the c-clip. Plastic fantastic. I swear I was going to break it each time. MCarbo makes a replacement kit for the shock buffer and c-clip which are metal. Think it's like $30 or so. That clearly is as a result of demand for a better mouse trap. Those kits get sold out often.
3. The weight ergonomics and distribution are off. I find it front heavy. Again, the MLOK aluminum handguard version. I have held the non aluminum handguard version and it's much better.
4. I wish I kept the Ruger magazine - I have the Ruger magwell but I traded the Ruger Magazine for a Magpul Glock one. It's a trade I wish I never made, in retrospect, even based on the very imbalanced value. I still have the Ruger magwell. Reason why I mention all this is because for my gun anyways, there are issues with the last round bolt hold open with the Glock magwell and Glock mags (doesn't matter if it's OEM Glock G4/G5, or Promag, or Magpul.
5. Accuracy is nothing to write home about. My new FPC has amazing accuracy and makes the Ruger PC carbine's performance look like an SKS.
6. I don't care about looks but the PC Carbine just looks like a plain jane. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but I enjoy guns that have a degree of innovative uniqueness. The PC Carbine is by no means a bad gun, but it's not the cat's meow that I once envisioned it was. That could also be my own personal tastes changing over time, but the aspects I noted above do contribute to my overall impressions on the gun.
Since I got the PC Carbine I got the FX9 (which is the easiest and fastest takedown of any PCC I own) and my most recent Smith & Wesson FPC, which I just love, love, love. Will probably end up selling the PC Carbine since I found guns which I enjoy shooting better.
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I run a Ruger PC Carbine for ipsc and 3 gun and I can hang with the FX9 an b&t guys... Yes it's a bit heavy, but with a good vertical break the dot barely moves. There are a few key components that are kinda bunk outta the box (extractor, extractor/firing pin pins, c retention cup on the buffer plate, and the buffer plate). Stock trigger is descent, ergos are ok (I dropped mine into a tandemkross set up and CZ magwell). Over all it's a great shooter and it eats just about all ammo except for that STV Scorpio stuff ..that stuff is hit and miss even in some of my pistols.
It's way less picky than an FX9 when it comes to ammo, can take three types of mags (with the purchase of the CZ mag well), and costs a fraction of a nr b&t. It's great... Until we can get AR9's again
It's way less picky than an FX9 when it comes to ammo, can take three types of mags (with the purchase of the CZ mag well), and costs a fraction of a nr b&t. It's great... Until we can get AR9's again
