It's overpriced because of the Dumb Canadian premium. Generally, every non-restricted "tactical" rifle will cost twice as much as it should on our market. The prices for many of these guns will PLUMMET if we ever make AR's non-restricted. My guess is that the SG540's would drop to $1800ish, the Tavors just below $2000 as well, the T97's into the $600 range.
Wanting To Buy A FAMAE SG 540
- Thread starter Mumbles Marble Mouth
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It's overpriced because of the Dumb Canadian premium. Generally, every non-restricted "tactical" rifle will cost twice as much as it should on our market. The prices for many of these guns will PLUMMET if we ever make AR's non-restricted. My guess is that the SG540's would drop to $1800ish, the Tavors just below $2000 as well, the T97's into the $600 range.
live4therut
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I like my sg542, light, Ergonomics that work good for me and decent accuracy. They can be had for well under 3k just look around. It is what it is and that being a semi auto battle rifle that serves the purpose I bought it for. I do not expect unrealistic accuracy out of it as that's what my LRB's and hopefully the modern hunter are for. If you don't like the price don't buy it as there's people that will. Is it the best value out there? No, if you want that buy a m305 and upgrade it.
I own one. Also own Robinson Armament 308 and Norinco 305
Famae 540 in 308 is well build, no difference between same rifle build in France in the 80s (Handled one in early 90s) quality is the same
Famae: Its main advantage it is a military rifle not civilian production and it has a proven track record
- accuracy is acceptable 2 inch
- it is light way lighter then the two elephants by which I mean Robinson and M-14. It is lighter by 1kg, so even if you put a scope on it it is still lighter then bare bones M-14 or Robinson
- it is a very functional military rifle
- Fit and finnish is not Cheap it is as it should be on Military production, this gun is made from many stampings and welding is used, so fit and finish is as good as it can get on this sort of technology
- My only complaint is the optic rail, was not able to successfully mount optics but since I intend to use only with irons it is no problem
- Price we pay for exotic weapons in Canada so it is as high as can be expected. If you don't like the price of it don't complaint this rifle 90% of negative posts are made by people who do not own one
Famae 540 in 308 is well build, no difference between same rifle build in France in the 80s (Handled one in early 90s) quality is the same
Famae: Its main advantage it is a military rifle not civilian production and it has a proven track record
- accuracy is acceptable 2 inch
- it is light way lighter then the two elephants by which I mean Robinson and M-14. It is lighter by 1kg, so even if you put a scope on it it is still lighter then bare bones M-14 or Robinson
- it is a very functional military rifle
- Fit and finnish is not Cheap it is as it should be on Military production, this gun is made from many stampings and welding is used, so fit and finish is as good as it can get on this sort of technology
- My only complaint is the optic rail, was not able to successfully mount optics but since I intend to use only with irons it is no problem
- Price we pay for exotic weapons in Canada so it is as high as can be expected. If you don't like the price of it don't complaint this rifle 90% of negative posts are made by people who do not own one
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC Canada
I'd love that rifle but could never spend 3k on it. Or any rifle for that matter. $1500 is the most I'll pay for a gun especially when we can't legally load them with any more than 5 rounds.
Hotwheels81
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.....black special, ruag white box, diopter sight, 100M off bag's... One of the few $3000+ rifles that is worth it's price tag IMHO.
If a $3000 semi auto can't do this then what justify a the price tag?
Ar180shooter
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Any sort of LE/agency work is much closer to the civilian side of things when it comes to maintenance and environment than the MIL side of things. Second, a regular rack grade M16/M4 (etc.) with issue ammo won't be any more accurate than the FAMAE. There are specialist rifles like the Mk 12 SPR that will definitely beat the FAMAE for accuracy, but I can guarantee that based on the design alone, the FAMAE will be more reliable in harsh conditions.
People think the FAMAE is over priced because they don't want to pay the retail price for it. The reason the guns cost what they do is because they are made in relatively small numbers by a state run factory that has no real idea what it costs to produce them.
Also people repeatedly turn up their noses at stamped steel production, usually because they assume all such production is the same. HK and SAN have both demonstrated that it is a very durable construction method, but it is also fairly expensive when done in small numbers.
Hotwheels81
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The finish on some seem to garner complaints, lots of chipped and peeling paint (or whatever they used on the reciever).
The .308 version has had complaints of being picky on ammo and not cycling properly with some types from what I have found on YouTube reviews.
I was VERY interested in buying the .308 version... As of yet I haven't seen anything overly impressive that makes money want to fly from my wallet... Over priced? Priced competitively with higher end black non restricted's on our market... It's only crime so far is not having some jaw dropping carefully edited reviews with pictures of tiny groups and some roid monkey with a FDE shamag tucked under his beard talking about it being the next best thing to the last rifle he was given to play with..
You forgot to mention Kalashnikov..... You know... That rifle that so many people here would carve off a pound of flesh to have... And when you get one in your hands you discover that it makes a 51 Tula SKS look like a sako...
A solution looking for a problem. The SAN's and AR's don't need any such thing done, the play has no bearing on functionality or accuracy.
But hey, the next time I'm home I'll suggest that everyone jam an eraser in their stgw90's to make them shoot better. I'll do my best to dodge the Feldschlösschen bottles lol.
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No I didn't forget the AKM, or the MAC10 for that matter. Not all stamped steel construction is the same and some of it is shoddy. But HK used to charge a premium for the HK91/93/94 rifles and I don't recall anyone claiming they were over priced stamped junk. I recall one fellow who claimed he could bend the trigger housing on a Classic Green with his hands. I offered him a free rifle if he could do it in front of me, but for some reason he never took me up on it.
Again, the FAMAE rifles are expensive because of the type of construction and the relatively small production numbers. Some may recall the SSD FG42 rifles coming in at $10k. Stamped construction in very small runs and $$$$.
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC Canada
I have a hard time buying a XCR or a Famae when I was able to buy a CSA for $1,135.00 all said and done. They would likely sell a lot more guns if they lowered the cost and made bigger batches.
First I've heard of it being picky with amno
Mumbles Marble Mouth
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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I decided I'm going to hold off on the SG-540. There is too many guns I want and not enough money to buy them all. I need to win Lotto 649.
I don't think you have a good comprehension of what type of scale is required to drop the prices substantially. The numbers would be too large for the Canadian market to absorb, so where would they go and who would coordinate it?
Probably sell a lot more Ferrari's if they dropped the price to $30000 but then they would be just another car and the company would go bankrupt.
I definitely don't think either of those rifles are the Ferrari's of black rifles but they are priced partially based on the cost of production and partially on what the manufacturer and importer feels the market will support. They seem to be able to sell every rifle that comes into the stores so I wouldn't expect to see the price drop just because you don't want to pay that much.
I won't buy either of them because I think there are better rifles available for comparable prices.
Beyond leaving out the select fire bits and I assume modifying the receiver so select fire bits don't just drop in.... what else did they change from the basic infantry gun that they make for the army?
I always assumed the shift from milled steel to stamped parts was a cost saving move made years ago when CNC was a dream.
The trigger mech and lower are specific to the Canadian rifles. As for a pencil eraser to tighten up the upper/lower wobble, there is a tried and true Swiss method of tightening them that completely eliminates any looseness. We have adjusted all the SAN rifles shooting at our Swiss Rifle club as well SG45X's. As for the comment by one poster that the looseness has no effect on actual accuracy, incorrect. I have witnessed on my rifles the before and after effect at 300 meters. I was taught this method by a former Swiss Military Armourer and fellow Swiss competitive shooter. Although small, there is most certianly an increase in "target grade" accuracy.
