Wanting to get into longer range shooting...

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I'm hoping to build a longer range setup.
My wife is really enjoying that aspect of shooting and I think it'd be a great way for us to enjoy more time sharing a hobby. I'd love a better rifle for it as well.

I'm looking for a good action, heavy barrel 6.5CM to base a build on. I had been thinking of a Bergara B14 then a nice chassis.

What do you all think? Does anyone have a source for a barreled B14 6.5CM action? Other suggestions?
 
Prophet River deals with Bergara and I've seen them have barrelled actions before.

Another option would be a Tikka CTR in 6 or 6.5 creedmoor, toss the stock and put it in a chassis of your choice.
 
If using a factory rifle for a donor, Tikka T3, Wby Vanguard/Howa, Rem 783, newer (or much older) Rem 700s. These are all supported with prefit match barrels so easy and far less money to get set up.

If you prefer custom, then have at it as they pretty much all work.

Decide on your budget... priorities for furniture and accessories and have at it. Doesn't need to cost alot to get great LR results... but it can if you prefer

The real cost is in the ammo/handloads.... some factory barrels can shoot, many aren't all that exciting. Swap in a prefit match barrel and you will extract the most from that ammo.

If I can help... pm or email.

Jerry
 
Consider the budget and availability of a 6.5 platform.

I went into my own long range build a bit naive how quickly it could all add up. I started with a Tikka CTR as the base, which was around $1500-1600, and by the time I had a decent optic, brake and bipod I was already in for close to $4000. I haven't even dropped it into a custom chassis yet, that will be another $1.5-2K. And then consider ammunition will run about $2-3 a round if you can even find them. You can get that down to about 1-1.5 per round if you reload but not before you invest another 1-2K in equipment and then you still have to hope to God you can find powder and primers, which are harder to find these days than the factory ammo it seems.
 
Buy the bighorn Origin rifle on gobigtactical. Great action, great stock, great trigger, great barrel. Better than a savage or bergara or tikka. If you have the budget skip over the factory rifles.
 
Hopefully this doesn't become too long winded....

Firstly, define what you want to be as "long range", of course, also base that off of what sort of distances you have access to on a regular or semi-regular basis. For some shooters, 300m is "long range". That being said, I suspect you want to go a lot further than that.

From a cartridge perspective, pick something that you can get factory loaded. If you aren't set up yet for reloading, it's a great way to accumulate brass, and an opportunity to get to the range without having to invest all the money, necessary tools and components to re-load ammo. Reloading truly is another ball-game, and might not be something you want to mess with immediately. You're idea of 6.5 is excellent - while ammo availability is a bit spotty across the board right now, there is generally plenty of 6.5 Creedmoor ammo, in varying weights, quality etc. The same goes for .308. Being that this is your first foray into long range, having a good selection of factory available ammunition will help immensely. Even a .223 can be an excellent choice.

Plenty of people will give plenty of suggestions for actions - from factory rifles with varying degrees of quality (like a rem 783, made by a company who barely exists) to the custom actions. Personally, I have a bunch of experience on Bergara rifles, both the B14 and a Premier rifle, and I am extremely happy with them. They offer excellent factory options, and given that they accept a large majority Remington 700 parts (triggers, bases, chassis etc.) you really can't go wrong with them. I equally enjoy custom actions, but as your first foray into long range, starting with a known quality factory rifle will give you tons of room to grow, and figure out what you do and don't like in a precision long range rifle. It can absolutely be overwhelming when you start to see all the accessories, products, etc. out there for long range shooting.

Take a real look at how capable you are of shooting accurately and and consistently on a regular basis - most people getting into long range for the first time wont shoot consistently enough to necessarily warrant swapping the barrel out for a "match grade" barrel off the get go. There is merit to a match grade barrel no doubt, but to think you should need to drop the factory barrel off a rifle right away is likely not required.

I'll also throw this in. Shooting a .22 out to 200 and 300 yards is insane amounts of fun, and will teach you a ton about the fundamentals of long range shooting, especially wind reading. You may want to consider the option (at some point in time) of having a similarly set up .22 to your centre fire long range gun. Bipods, tripods, bags etc. will all be shared between them as well. If you don't regularly have access to the distances you want to shoot with your future centre fire rifle, the .22 will get you out to the range to continue building your fundamentals.

Obviously this goes without saying, but figure out your budget for an optic as well. There's plenty of great choices out there depending on what sort of long range shooting you want, and even more reticles to choose from.
 
I'll also throw this in. Shooting a .22 out to 200 and 300 yards is insane amounts of fun, and will teach you a ton about the fundamentals of long range shooting, especially wind reading. You may want to consider the option (at some point in time) of having a similarly set up .22 to your centre fire long range gun. Bipods, tripods, bags etc. will all be shared between them as well. If you don't regularly have access to the distances you want to shoot with your future centre fire rifle, the .22 will get you out to the range to continue building your fundamentals.

I'll second that, and add this. Get a used .22LR match rifle with its original micrometer-adjustable aperture sights, and work on extending your range. A CIL/Anschutz 190 is the classic Canadian choice. The BSA Internationals or the earlier 12/15 (Martini action) are also excellent rifles. Any of these options should cost under $1,000 for an older, wood stocked model that's been well looked after. You'll get rewarding groups right off the bat at 100 yards, and you'll get used to reading the wind and trying different ammo (CCI SV, Eley Club, etc). Then go to 200. These rifles have a handstop and you can attach a half sling cinched around your bicep.
 
Get a Bergara B14 HMR Wilderness. I had one briefly, it was a budget friendly tack driver. Good stock on it, good adjustable trigger.

+1 for getting a 22 as well, but if you can only have one, 6.5 is a good start.
 
Another +1 for 22 at long range really teaches to watch the wind.

Is a man bun still a prerequisite for shooting 6.5 Creedmoor ?
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+2...22lr
they are allot of fun at distance. Allot of folks don't like shooting because of the noise and recoil. Both are almost eliminated with 22lr.
Laying or sitting behind a 22lr allows the shooter to see their impacts on target. you can go from paper to more entertaining targets like paint balls, clay targets, balloons or full bottles of pop.

If you are more interested in 6.5 you can get a tikka and dress it up with a Cadex or MDT

Cheers
 
I'm hoping to build a longer range setup.
My wife is really enjoying that aspect of shooting and I think it'd be a great way for us to enjoy more time sharing a hobby. I'd love a better rifle for it as well.

I'm looking for a good action, heavy barrel 6.5CM to base a build on. I had been thinking of a Bergara B14 then a nice chassis.

What do you all think? Does anyone have a source for a barreled B14 6.5CM action? Other suggestions?

I am not sure if you reload, but I am finding it almost impossible to find a large batch of match grade ammo in 6.5 CM. I am wanting to take the Rob Furlong course, but you need 200 rounds of the same match ammo... very difficult! I found some, but my gf was considering taking the course, and I am having trouble sourcing ammo.
 
I am not sure if you reload, but I am finding it almost impossible to find a large batch of match grade ammo in 6.5 CM. I am wanting to take the Rob Furlong course, but you need 200 rounds of the same match ammo... very difficult! I found some, but my gf was considering taking the course, and I am having trouble sourcing ammo.
You should phone Rob, I belive you can buy ammo there, but Iay be wrong.
Personally speaking I would never consider shooting any long range rifles ( match or otherwise) with factory ammo, for optimum accuracy the load should be matched to the rifle.
However, Furlong's course requires that you have a rifle capable of 1 MOA which is not hard to do with a lot of factory ammo .
Cat
 
If I wanted to start shooting long range with a Bergara, I would get a B-14 HMR. There's a reason why these are super popular as an entry-level long range rifle. Good barrels and actions with a fully adjustable stock, all at a reasonable price. You could stick a $1000 scope on it and 1000m is pretty doable. You don't need to drop it into a chassis since the adjustability is already there. Just go shoot.

Same with a Tikka Varmint or CTR provided the stock fits you (better candidate for a chassis I feel). Just send it.

Custom is best and you will notice a difference when you really stretch it out. No sense taking an MOA or sub-MOA factory rifle out to 1200+ when a custom gun with custom handloads can go sub-half-MOA - it really makes the job that much easier.
 
I’m also going to vote doing a precision rimfire build. The amount you can shoot for much lower cost will be beneficial plus shooting a 22 at 150-300 yards is a lot of fun and great for fundamentals, wind practice. If your looking for sure at a centerfire I’d say go 223. Excellent practice, great fun, excellent for ranges to 600 and still workable too 1000.

As far as barrel’d actions call Mike over at KS arms and have him spin you up a barrel on his SAR action. Great Canadian company, building great Canadian products!! Another option is now that Ryan is running ultimatum and ibi you could get that as well! Ryan’s also great to deal with.
 
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